RE: Some theists are just to far gone
June 2, 2015 at 1:06 pm
(This post was last modified: June 2, 2015 at 1:17 pm by Secular Elf.)
(June 1, 2015 at 2:25 pm)Pyrrho Wrote:(June 1, 2015 at 1:21 pm)QuarkDriven Wrote: I heard a catholic say today, babies are narcissistic...Feed me, give me the bottle, carry me.. and thats one of the reasons they need to be baptized... wtf??? yeah.. too far gone...
It is probably a rationalization to try to justify the preexisting belief that babies need to be baptized. Much of what people say regarding their reasoning is that way. They start with a conclusion, and then look for reasons to justify it.
Yeah, it is like "babies don't need us, they can survive on their own without all the whining and crying and hissy fits." That attitude is just damned fucked up!
(June 1, 2015 at 5:24 pm)Pyrrho Wrote:(June 1, 2015 at 4:21 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I'd say that all theists are too far gone. If you really believe in that shit your brain is mush.
(I realize there are many who are just born into it and give it no thought at all.)
That is a bit harsh. Many people escape from theism.
It would be different if people were properly raised, and then they adopted theism. Then I would agree, their minds are mush. But many people are very thoroughly indoctrinated as children, and so, for a time, they believe some drivel. The smarter ones escape, but one cannot judge the level of intelligence purely by how long it takes to come to one's senses, as some people are more thoroughly indoctrinated than others.
The indoctrination seems to work like a virus of the mind. Dr. Darrel W. Ray wrote a book called "The God Virus: How Religion Infects Our Lives and Culture." He explained it as a type of meme that acts like a virus, it infects and takes over the mental state of the believer to produce another mental state. I saw him speak at a meeting of the Atlanta Freethought Society once and again at the Lake Hypatia retreat one July 4th weekend. I bought his book and it is available online as a pdf if you want to check it out. Here is a vid of him as a guest on The Atheist Experience with co-host Matt Dillahnty:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPN3UlxCXH4
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