RE: Ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses
June 9, 2015 at 9:46 am
(This post was last modified: June 9, 2015 at 10:57 am by The Grand Nudger.)
You -are- biased...so am I. Whats the problem? We can both accept and understand that about ourselves, I'm sure? I don't know -what- you're doing...beyond what you do here. I'm not sure where you intended to take that. Are you angry that I've called you out on flip-flopping? Perhaps you shouldn't have done that, then....what does that have to do with me, though?
You aren;t going to say "whatever" - you're going to respond in the manner that you've been taught to respond (same as I). That's what I expect, that's how it's played out thusfar. Our previous conversation was, essentially, scripted (an thank the RCC for it). I knew your answers before you gave them because those are "the JW answers". Aren't they? Anyone who's ever asked themselves "how are JWs different" would have very quickly arrived upon the answer with very little research. Christology. The christology of differing sects is -inferred- from the text, rather than directly stated. If it were directly stated, there would be no such subject as "christology". When orthodox sects run their inference, they come up with a trinity, when JWs run their inference, polytheism.
-It's just two different ways of making sense of a potentially contradictory claim.- Each seems absurd to the other group (both seem absurd to me).
What is it, other than the above...that you think I'm hoping to establish about JW or orthodox doctrines?
I appreciate, btw, that JW appeals to you logically...we hear that alot, though. I'd love to explore how you came to believe through logic, or how you maintain your beliefs through logic? Were you (*or your family) late converts, argued into the Hall? Or, if you're 2nd gen (or further) at what point did you reappraise the faith of your fathers logically....and what does an appraisal like that look like?
(I think, btw, that if it's emotional reasons driving you, your faith in god is safe. No matter how much I wish something weren't true, that never has the power to make it so, in my experience. I presume you have a similar experience? I doubt that you'll actually be able to drive yourself out of JW doctrine that you know..logically, for example..to be true...simply because you don't like it. You will still believe, you will still be a JW...you will simply be unrepentant, apostate. -and very, very lonely.)
Hey, here's a good one for you, additionally, give you a chance to expound upon a portion of the faith which you'll find near unanimous acceptance and praise for. Tell the peanut gallery why JW's refuse to bare arms?
You aren;t going to say "whatever" - you're going to respond in the manner that you've been taught to respond (same as I). That's what I expect, that's how it's played out thusfar. Our previous conversation was, essentially, scripted (an thank the RCC for it). I knew your answers before you gave them because those are "the JW answers". Aren't they? Anyone who's ever asked themselves "how are JWs different" would have very quickly arrived upon the answer with very little research. Christology. The christology of differing sects is -inferred- from the text, rather than directly stated. If it were directly stated, there would be no such subject as "christology". When orthodox sects run their inference, they come up with a trinity, when JWs run their inference, polytheism.
-It's just two different ways of making sense of a potentially contradictory claim.- Each seems absurd to the other group (both seem absurd to me).
What is it, other than the above...that you think I'm hoping to establish about JW or orthodox doctrines?
I appreciate, btw, that JW appeals to you logically...we hear that alot, though. I'd love to explore how you came to believe through logic, or how you maintain your beliefs through logic? Were you (*or your family) late converts, argued into the Hall? Or, if you're 2nd gen (or further) at what point did you reappraise the faith of your fathers logically....and what does an appraisal like that look like?
(I think, btw, that if it's emotional reasons driving you, your faith in god is safe. No matter how much I wish something weren't true, that never has the power to make it so, in my experience. I presume you have a similar experience? I doubt that you'll actually be able to drive yourself out of JW doctrine that you know..logically, for example..to be true...simply because you don't like it. You will still believe, you will still be a JW...you will simply be unrepentant, apostate. -and very, very lonely.)
Hey, here's a good one for you, additionally, give you a chance to expound upon a portion of the faith which you'll find near unanimous acceptance and praise for. Tell the peanut gallery why JW's refuse to bare arms?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
