(June 10, 2015 at 10:50 am)Dystopia Wrote:Quote:1. Because that site isn't attempting to get a Muslim's view on what they think about non-related things. It is specifically asking them about Islam; not anything which is unrelated to Islam.Didn't answer my question - Why should I trust this site?
The Muslims were asked clear-cut questions: ''Do you believe in death for apostasy?'', ''Do you believe in honor killings?'', ''Thoughts on homosexuality?'' etc. These are basic questions which aren't surprising to Muslims given that such beliefs are in their own law.
The site isn't even smearing Muslims as terrorists, just posting what the general beliefs are of Muslims. Are most Muslims terrorist? No. But do signifcant numbers of Muslims believe in death for apostasy? Yes.
These are surveys which are done on global scales, even if they were ''cherry picked'' --- these are concerning, and scary results.
Quote:2. Right, why can't I post polls?You need to give your opinion and provide some insight, you can't simply quote the poll and runaway expecting people to buy it right away.
Quote:Here is an example from PEW - http://www.pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/musl...hezbollah/As a rational person I hate wasting time - So tell me why should I click the link? Why will I not be wasting time?
Quote:3. Cenk is definitely an apologist - it was clear when he got trashed in that debate. How is Harris akin to Hitler?About a month ago I watched the whole debate out of sheer curiosity - I think both made good points. Cenk isn't even a Muslim - This is the problem I'm talking about, you call him an apologist when all he does is to argue for a tolerant society free of bigotry - He didn't even say Muslims are all good people, he just thought Harris gave special treatment to Islam, something he actually does. Cenk made a mistake linking Catholicism with the Holocaust - I have explained here in AF how you can't justify Hitler's eugenics program with Catholicism - But Harris makes the mistake of thinking doctrine must determine faith all the time.
How? If I posted you some quotes by Harris and Hitler, do you think you would know which ones were said by Hitler and by Harris? [unless you have extensive knowledge on both authors]. Harris thinks bigotry against a specific religion is justifiable because it's a religion and not a race. The truth is people don't make many choices, it depends on where they are born.![]()
1. Actually, I did answer your question. The site is just a data-base, it's not making any claim besides compiling data. It's not a wiki; it's the research that is linked is what is in question, not ''challengingthetinyminority''
The research that is linked are global and national surveys. They don't *just* sample Muslims, they track world-wide trends and are used for global data. So...why is it only now cherry-picking when it samples Muslim beliefs?
2. There's nothing rational about what you're saying. The polls I've linked to are research studies which ask Muslims questions. On another thread you are fine with accepting that 59% identify as Christians in the UK but suddenly, if a Muslim disagrees with homosexuality it's not valid data?
PEW is a trusted organisation which routinely collects annual data to note beliefs and trends. But here is more info on the methodology:
http://www.pewresearch.org/methodology/i...-research/
To date, the center has conducted more than 480,000 interviews in 91 countries, mainly in conjunction with the longstanding Global Attitudes and Religion & Public Life projects. Cross-national studies constitute the bulk of Pew Research Center’s international survey research. Such studies pose special challenges when it comes to ensuring the comparability of data across multiple languages, cultures and contexts.
It has considerable funding and has went to lengths to undertake thousands of hours of interviews in an effort to collect data; the fact that PEW has conducted that many is a testament to it's scale.
What is wrong with Harris targeting Islam?
Islam is undoubtedly much more of a threat than Christianity, Judaism or any other belief system is today in the modern world. The radicals in Islam are much more violent and powerful than Christianity.
Cenk was once a Muslim and his constant excuses for Islam are extremely noticeable; yet when it comes to Christianity, he is suddenly fine. If Cenk wants a free society without bigotry, then don't tolerate intolerance.
Islam, like other Arbahamic religions, is intolerant dogma.