(June 11, 2015 at 6:28 am)robvalue Wrote:(June 10, 2015 at 4:59 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I just picked this up at TTA - thanks to Tonechaser77 for posting it. Robert M. Price recaps and demolishes page after page of jesus freak horseshit in 40 of the most useful minutes you will ever spend on the subject.
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...#pid795975
Very interesting vid, thanks
Jesus' ass really hurts after that.
If there are any christians reading, he also challenges beliefs in some very interesting ways. I'd recommend checking it out if you're at all interested in challenging yourself.
And this is one of the problems I have with presenting this weak Myther stuff as the antidote to Christian belief. Anyone with a brain can see that pointing out that there is far more evidence for a Roman emperor than there is for a Jewish preacher from the back of nowhere and so concluding that the preacher didn't is not making an argument of any coherence, let alone one of any power. Ditto for noting that there are elements in the gospels which are clearly not meant to be read historically or which are clearly reflections of later concerns, rather than reflections of historical events and then leaping acrobatically from that to "so Jesus didn't exist". These aren't even good arguments, let alone "challenging" ones. When atheists use this kind of weak crap to make their case against Christianity they just look like idiots.
There are far better and genuinely challenging arguments made by scholars who can actually get a job somewhere other than the "Johnnie Colemon Theological Seminary" (which is in desperate need of a decent web designer as well as better faculty members). Ones that are actually based on coherent history, detailed textual analysis and understanding of things like Jewish apocalypcism and the evidence that shows Jesus was very much a part of his Jewish world. But while people keep following nobodies like Price on this Myther wild goose chase they will continue to look exactly like the atheist equivalent to Creationists.