(June 11, 2015 at 4:23 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(June 11, 2015 at 1:45 am)Brian37 Wrote: Kings are dictators too. I cant ever put "progressive" in the same sentence with "dictator" after 14 years of online debate with theists who worship an unmovable God. Unless you have a government that has the opportunity to remove said leader by vote or by impeachment, it does not matter how kind someone might view that leader. Believers in God also think he is kind.
The point is that the French didn't mind being under Napoleon. They're hardly likely to want to commemorate a battle in which a leader who had improved their lives was overthrown by foreigners.
The notion that all dictators are inherently bad simply by being dictators is an absurd one. And conflating an imaginary God with a human leader of a human state is ludicrous.
Boru
Again, that's the same as saying "Believers in God don't mind being under his rule". I am quite sure if you kiss Kim Jong Un's ass and he likes you, he will treat you well.
It isn't about what people mind, it is about the bad logic that leads them to allow them to be ruled like that.
And yes the CONCEPT of the God in that people claiming he is the final absolute power and cannot be removed from his position, is the very definition of a dictator.
I do not find the claimed attribute of this character "all seeing" as compassionate or moral. That smacks of Orwell's 1984. And "all powerful" as well. That makes humans mere property, toys, lab rats.
Christopher Hitchens rightfully described such a claimed monster of a being as a "leader of a celestial North Korea".
Don't allow your well intended liberal sense of fairness to ignore the way that character is written. There is simply nothing good about that character. It is like calling an abusive spouse good because they buy you flowers after beating the shit out of you.
