RE: Is the ''Only a minority of Muslims are radical'' true?
June 12, 2015 at 3:36 am
(This post was last modified: June 12, 2015 at 3:39 am by Thumpalumpacus.)
(June 10, 2015 at 2:02 pm)TheMessiah Wrote: The argument put forward is to look at Muslim majority nations; which have Islamic beliefs reinforced through law and then poll them.
Then you titled your thread wrong, because you asked "only a minority of Muslims are radical?" with no reference to nations at all. And nowhere in your OP did you mention that only Muslim-majority countries are being considered -- this means that you're now engaging in moving the goalposts.
And even if you were to only include Muslim-majority countries, that still wouldn't allow you to draw the conclusion that the majority of Muslims are extremists, because by sorting by country but making conclusions about people, you're making a category error.
(June 10, 2015 at 2:02 pm)TheMessiah Wrote: 40% of Indonesian Muslims believe in violence in defense of Islam. That is roughly 80 million, yet again, more people than there are in some European countries. Even the 30% of Indonesians who support the death penalty for apostasy, roughly equates to 58 million Muslims (of Indonesia).
http://www.thejakartapost.com/detailweek...060728.@03
Egypt has a population of 82.06 million. 80 million are Muslims. 84% of 82 million is roughly 67 million; there are 67 million people in Egypt who see it reasonable that apostates of Islam deserve to die because of it.
Oddly enough, the first two numbers aren't even majorities.
Also, how many Christians would support violence in defense of their faith? Why is there no data for that question? Because I'd bet that solid numbers of Christians would answer to the affirmative on that, at least here in America, and almost certainly in Africa, where they are currently engaged in doing exactly that. I wonder why your "religionofpeace" website doesn't mention that?
(June 10, 2015 at 2:02 pm)TheMessiah Wrote: Either way, I think you are missing the point I was making --- we are constantly smacked with ''A fringe minority of Muslims are radical'' yet what appears to be the case is that entire Muslim majorities in Muslim countries all hold extremely radical beliefs.
This is entirely falsified by the data that you yourself are linking in this very post, as well as your OP. Your analysis of data in support of your premise is entirely unconvincing, and I'm wondering exactly how you can look at a number like 40% and call it a majority, unless you either don't know how to analyze data, suffer bias that renders your post worthless, or are being deliberately dishonest.
When you can explain how you extract statements like the emboldened ones above from the data that you yourself have presented, in a manner that statistically and reasonably holds true, we can perhaps talk. Until then, it looks to me like you're biting the baited hook.
(June 10, 2015 at 2:02 pm)TheMessiah Wrote: Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Nigeria, the list goes on.
Numbers over 50%, please, with supporting links from a non-bullshit source. Pew's a good start; "thereligionofpeace.horseshit" is not.