Quote:Then you titled your thread wrong, because you asked "only a minority of Muslims are radical?" with no reference to nations at all. And nowhere in your OP did you mention that only Muslim-majority countries are being considered -- this means that you're now engaging in moving the goalposts.
And even if you were to only include Muslim-majority countries, that still wouldn't allow you to draw the conclusion that the majority of Muslims are extremists, because by sorting by country but making conclusions about people, you're making a category error.
I made it clear in my thread that I'm challenging the idea of whether a ''fringe minority'' of Muslims are radical. This entails whether entire Muslim majority nations such as Egypt, are all non-radical and only whether a fringe minority are radical. This isn't ''moving goal-posts'' --- this was my intent all along. Indonesian Muslims may be less radical but there are countries like Iran which are not. I'm challenging the notion of whether ''Most of these Muslim countries aren't all that racial'' is true.
Note, that I'm not calling them ''extremist'' - I'm calling them radical. These are the same Muslims that denounce terrorism but believe stoning people to death for adultery is justified.
[quote] Oddly enough, the first two numbers aren't even majorities.
Also, how many Christians would support violence in defense of their faith? Why is there no data for that question? Because I'd bet that solid numbers of Christians would answer to the affirmative on that, at least here in America, and almost certainly in Africa, where they are currently engaged in doing exactly that. I wonder why your "religionofpeace" website doesn't mention that?
The first stat is not, but 40% believing in such a punishment is a significant and startling figure.
Again, where's the evidence that most Christians want to defend their faith with violence? Islam in it's current form is much more radical than Christianity. Nearly 80% of all Americans are Christians and they all differ to varying degrees because many of them are only culturally Christians. When the Christian radical bombed an abortion clinic, he was sentenced to death - he cited his faith as justification yet the court found him guilty - the Christian faith gets stronger once you move down to the Southern States and even then, the Southerners are more likely to believe in a smaller government/less authority.
Where's the evidence that most Christians will kill you if you draw a picture of their prophet? Sure, Christians get pissed off when you make fun of Jesus, but they almost never try to kill you for it. I don't think this comparison is entirely honest here.
The worst Christian group is...the KKK or Westboro Baptist Church? Both of are hate groups yet they're not violent anymore, the same can't be said for Islam - it is far more violent and organised with it's terrorism.
So while Christianity may have been worse, Islam takes the cake for the 21st century.
Now you mentioned Africa, I agree Christianity would be more aggressive in Africa. But even then, Boko Harm is still far more violent than any Christian group found in Africa. Islam is a global threat, Christianity isn't.
Quote:This is entirely falsified by the data that you yourself are linking in this very post, as well as your OP. Your analysis of data in support of your premise is entirely unconvincing, and I'm wondering exactly how you can look at a number like 40% and call it a majority, unless you either don't know how to analyze data, suffer bias that renders your post worthless, or are being deliberately dishonest.
When you can explain how you extract statements like the emboldened ones above from the data that you yourself have presented, in a manner that statistically and reasonably holds true, we can perhaps talk. Until then, it looks to me like you're biting the baited hook.
Firstly, the data isn't falsified.
Secondly, did I claim 40% of a majority? I said 40% of Indonesia, which is a very populated countries already outnumbers entire European countries. I then pointed to Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Nigeria, Jordan, Pakistan, etc. These countries what we refer to as ''The Muslim World''
Thirdly, none of what I'm doing is ''biting into the baited hook'' --- the meme we're being sold is that the West has made Muslim countries radical, and while that may be true in terms of terrorism, the fact remains that our morality differs. In some of these countries, it isn't even considered radical to stone someone to death for adultery, or murder a homosexual.
We Atheists always show that we're moral than Southern Christians who hate homosexuals, however countries like Iran have entire populations which are more radical in their belief system than all the Southern ''Christian'' states put together.
The less a Muslim adheres to his/her religion, the more moral they are.
P.S, the ''religionofpeace'' isn't a source you analyse; you analyse the research polls that are cited on that page.
