RE: Is the ''Only a minority of Muslims are radical'' true?
June 12, 2015 at 11:29 am
(This post was last modified: June 12, 2015 at 11:31 am by Thumpalumpacus.)
(June 12, 2015 at 6:32 am)TheMessiah Wrote: Again, where's the evidence that most Christians want to defend their faith with violence?
I know this doesn't fit the narrative that you want to believe -- indeed, that's probably why you haven't bothered searching out such information -- but believe me, if you ask them whether they'd be willing to defend their faith with violence, the numbers even here in America would be higher than you think, especially south of the Mason-Dixon line. Evidence? Here's some Christians who are very happy being just as brutal as the Muslims you would wish to single out:
Quote:BANGUI, Central African Republic – Tens of thousands of Muslims are fleeing to neighboring countries by plane and truck as Christian militias stage brutal attacks, shattering the social fabric of this war-ravaged nation.
In towns and villages as well as here in the capital, Christian vigilantes wielding machetes have killed scores of Muslims, who are a minority here, and burned and looted their houses and mosques in recent days, according to witnesses, aid agencies and peacekeepers. Tens of thousands of Muslims have fled their homes.
Perhaps you've forgotten The Troubles in Northern Ireland?
This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say that filters in the viewing public cause the media to tailor their reportage to their audience.
Christians would almost certainly take up arms in defense of their faith. Anyone asserting otherwise is in dire need of a history education.
(June 12, 2015 at 6:32 am)TheMessiah Wrote: Islam in it's current form is much more radical than Christianity. Nearly 80% of all Americans are Christians and they all differ to varying degrees because many of them are only culturally Christians. When the Christian radical bombed an abortion clinic, he was sentenced to death - he cited his faith as justification yet the court found him guilty - the Christian faith gets stronger once you move down to the Southern States and even then, the Southerners are more likely to believe in a smaller government/less authority.
Well it's a good thing I wasn't arguing that Christians are currently as violent as Muslims, huh?
And if you think rednecks wouldn't defend their faith with their guns, all I can say is that I humbly disagree.
(June 12, 2015 at 6:32 am)TheMessiah Wrote: Where's the evidence that most Christians will kill you if you draw a picture of their prophet? Sure, Christians get pissed off when you make fun of Jesus, but they almost never try to kill you for it. I don't think this comparison is entirely honest here.
"Defense of their faith" is a very broad question, which is exactly what I was getting at: you can get almost any desired response by tailoring poll questions ... and then massaging the stats, as that site clearly has done.
(June 12, 2015 at 6:32 am)TheMessiah Wrote: The worst Christian group is...the KKK or Westboro Baptist Church? Both of are hate groups yet they're not violent anymore, the same can't be said for Islam - it is far more violent and organised with it's terrorism.
Muslim terrorism is organized? What planet are you living on? They kill each other over sectarian differences far more than they non-Muslims, and Muslim terrorists seem to most often operate in tiny, independent cells only loosely affiliated with each other, sometimes an affiliation only found in choice of name.
Quote:So while Christianity may have been worse, Islam takes the cake for the 21st century.
More goal-post moving ... changing the criteria after the old criteria have been met.
(June 12, 2015 at 6:32 am)TheMessiah Wrote: Now you mentioned Africa, I agree Christianity would be more aggressive in Africa. But even then, Boko Harm is still far more violent than any Christian group found in Africa.
See the above link.
(June 12, 2015 at 6:32 am)TheMessiah Wrote: Islam is a global threat, Christianity isn't.
Some Muslims are ... certainily not the majority that you are claiming is.
(June 12, 2015 at 6:32 am)TheMessiah Wrote: Firstly, the data isn't falsified.
You should learn how to read. I said your premise is falsified, not the data.
Quote:Secondly, did I claim 40% of a majority? I said 40% of Indonesia, which is a very populated countries already outnumbers entire European countries. I then pointed to Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Nigeria, Jordan, Pakistan, etc. These countries what we refer to as ''The Muslim World''
Your title says "majority", yet your statistics don't demonstrate it.
(June 12, 2015 at 6:32 am)TheMessiah Wrote: Thirdly, none of what I'm doing is ''biting into the baited hook'' --- the meme we're being sold is that the West has made Muslim countries radical, and while that may be true in terms of terrorism, the fact remains that our morality differs. In some of these countries, it isn't even considered radical to stone someone to death for adultery, or murder a homosexual.
Of course you're biting the baited hook, being told that the "majority" of Muslims engage in those barbaric practices, when in fact they are a minority, and then trying to prop such a view up with cherry-picking a poll.
(June 12, 2015 at 6:32 am)TheMessiah Wrote: We Atheists always show that we're moral than Southern Christians who hate homosexuals, however countries like Iran have entire populations which are more radical in their belief system than all the Southern ''Christian'' states put together.
How many Iranians do you know? I know quite a few, personally. I think your view is skewed.
(June 12, 2015 at 6:32 am)TheMessiah Wrote: The less a Muslim adheres to his/her religion, the more moral they are.
lol, only a simpleton believes that morality is related to religion.
(June 12, 2015 at 6:32 am)TheMessiah Wrote: P.S, the ''religionofpeace'' isn't a source you analyse; you analyse the research polls that are cited on that page.
Ideally, you should. You clearly have not.