(June 12, 2015 at 11:53 am)Pyrrho Wrote:(June 12, 2015 at 10:04 am)robvalue Wrote: Greene: Sure, but in such a scenario couldn't they just push through this basic Euthenasia plus whatever else they wanted anyway? If maniacs are writing the rules we are doomed, no matter what the state is when they get in.
I'm not sure it's a valid counter argument to particular points. But then I fully admit I'm not up on legal matters so I could be being naive.
If bad people are making the rules, one will tend to have bad rules. Yes, that is true, but is irrelevant to the discussion, just as you say.
Right now, there isn't a proper mechanism in place (in most countries) for how to deal with this issue. And that means that people act in ways that are not in accordance with good rules, as they don't have good rules to follow.
Quite frankly, I have no problems with people being kept alive suffering, IF THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT. But I do have a problem with that being forced on people who don't want it. People should have a choice for themselves, and there should be a mechanism in place to deal with that. For example, there should be a form one fills out when one enters the hospital, when one gets a driver's liscence, when one files one's tax forms, or some other such way to get people's preferences, in writing, preferably long before it is needed, so that not only are the individual's rights respected, they can be known to be gathered before there is any mental deterioration that might make the person unfit to make such decisions. Then the doctors should be required by law to honor the written preferences of the individual.
I say, people should have a choice on such things, and I wish that everyone who does not want to allow people to make a choice for themselves would just fucking die immediately, as we do not need fascist asshole sadists torturing others. If you want to live suffering as long as possible, fine, but do not try to force your will on my life.
sums it up rather nicely. let the friggen family decide for themselves.
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