(June 11, 2015 at 11:36 am)abaris Wrote:No pissing contest at all.(June 11, 2015 at 11:31 am)Chuck Wrote: Judging from his previous posts, you are arguing against someone who, whatever he says about dictatorship, is at heart a rigid would be intellectual petty dictator who has little capacity to digest points of view not consistent his own, and who, if given a chance and the ability, would mercilessly stamp out any thinking not thought by him to be in line with his own.
I think for him, freedom essentially means dictatorship by the right people and right view point, however he would choose to represent it.
And it's a pitty that an otherwise interesting historical discussion turns into a petty pissing contest.
There is no moral way to define a position that denotes the attitude of absolute power which is what a dictator is. Not calling Napoleon a king did not change that he was a dictator. I find nothing moral about a figure that is not subject to oversight and review. It is the same type of cherry picking believers pine about the kind NT Jesus losing fact that the totality of the entire bible is still run by an unmovable figure that does not need the consent of the governed.
All Napoleon did was replace centralized power with his own. It is like quoting the NT, sure you can find some corn in poo, but that doesn't make poo good.