RE: Scientific Adam and Eve
June 15, 2015 at 4:35 am
(This post was last modified: June 15, 2015 at 4:50 am by robvalue.)
That's a good point about it not being constant. Thanks for the explanation 
Yeah, I suppose... Eve must be pretty closely human. I'm thinking of the idea that if more than one group of "humans" developed apart from each other, or alongside each other, then you'd have to trace back the common ancestor for both groups... would this necessarily be human? If you have to go further back than actual humans to reach it, then it wouldn't be.
But I'm thinking in terms of all humans there, not just those that are now alive. So that's wrong probably. Maybe at one point it wasn't human!?
Ah I'm confused. Need to learn
Stop swinging in the dark you twat.
The point to take home for theists is that this is not "a couple" so it in no way correlates with the bible. I think that is probably the biggest blunder that could be made here. Also the idea that original sin happened "at that point" makes no sense, because as you say these are not constant beings. That "point" changes, and the Adam and Eve, whatever they currently are, are probably not even going to be at the same point in time. If the meteorite hit, it would then be your grandmother's fault for original sin. So to try and co-opt science, theists would have to state the actual moment in time where a certain Adam and Eve have been calculated. And it still makes no fucking sense, as they are not a couple or of the same time. So just blame Eve I guess. The slag.
Someone please correct me if that last paragraph is wrong!

Yeah, I suppose... Eve must be pretty closely human. I'm thinking of the idea that if more than one group of "humans" developed apart from each other, or alongside each other, then you'd have to trace back the common ancestor for both groups... would this necessarily be human? If you have to go further back than actual humans to reach it, then it wouldn't be.
But I'm thinking in terms of all humans there, not just those that are now alive. So that's wrong probably. Maybe at one point it wasn't human!?
Ah I'm confused. Need to learn

The point to take home for theists is that this is not "a couple" so it in no way correlates with the bible. I think that is probably the biggest blunder that could be made here. Also the idea that original sin happened "at that point" makes no sense, because as you say these are not constant beings. That "point" changes, and the Adam and Eve, whatever they currently are, are probably not even going to be at the same point in time. If the meteorite hit, it would then be your grandmother's fault for original sin. So to try and co-opt science, theists would have to state the actual moment in time where a certain Adam and Eve have been calculated. And it still makes no fucking sense, as they are not a couple or of the same time. So just blame Eve I guess. The slag.
Someone please correct me if that last paragraph is wrong!
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