RE: Freewill and god.
June 15, 2015 at 5:33 am
(This post was last modified: June 15, 2015 at 5:43 am by robvalue.)
Sure, I never get that. It made the universe so it must be infinitely powerful. Why, exactly?
It knows enough to create the universe, so it must be infinitely knowledgable! Why, exactly?
If it turns out our universe was made by a guy sitting at a console running a simulation, is he infinitely powerful and all knowing? Perhaps you could say that as far as our universe goes, he is powerful enough to make "anything happen" and knows whatever he needs to know about it. So maybe he's omni regarding our artificial reality. But zoom out into his reality, and he's just a guy. He's not omni anything regarding his own "real" reality (or rather there's no reason he would be). And would he really be impressed by some little peons on a lump of grit writing fairy tale stories about how they imagine him and wanting to suck his cock 24/7? I think he'd just laugh and not care at all. Or more likely, he wouldn't even notice. It's a fucking big simulation.
And there's no way to distinguish between that scenario and the "God" hypothesis. I still think by far the most likely candidate for "God", if there is one, is exactly this simulation scenario. So it's just some guy (or whatever it is) in another reality. Big deal. Is begging him to program in an amazing afterlife, in the hope that he will somehow notice and care, really the best use of our time? If that's what we want, he already "knows" this, if that data is of any interest to him in the first place. Thinking we have special methods of communicating him by prayer is just silly.
We're probably an abandoned simulation that didn't get properly turned off. Yeah
Of course this is all speculation, but I think it's much more realistic speculation. There's still the much more simple and obvious case where this is all there is, and there is no "God" of any sort.
It knows enough to create the universe, so it must be infinitely knowledgable! Why, exactly?
If it turns out our universe was made by a guy sitting at a console running a simulation, is he infinitely powerful and all knowing? Perhaps you could say that as far as our universe goes, he is powerful enough to make "anything happen" and knows whatever he needs to know about it. So maybe he's omni regarding our artificial reality. But zoom out into his reality, and he's just a guy. He's not omni anything regarding his own "real" reality (or rather there's no reason he would be). And would he really be impressed by some little peons on a lump of grit writing fairy tale stories about how they imagine him and wanting to suck his cock 24/7? I think he'd just laugh and not care at all. Or more likely, he wouldn't even notice. It's a fucking big simulation.
And there's no way to distinguish between that scenario and the "God" hypothesis. I still think by far the most likely candidate for "God", if there is one, is exactly this simulation scenario. So it's just some guy (or whatever it is) in another reality. Big deal. Is begging him to program in an amazing afterlife, in the hope that he will somehow notice and care, really the best use of our time? If that's what we want, he already "knows" this, if that data is of any interest to him in the first place. Thinking we have special methods of communicating him by prayer is just silly.
We're probably an abandoned simulation that didn't get properly turned off. Yeah
Of course this is all speculation, but I think it's much more realistic speculation. There's still the much more simple and obvious case where this is all there is, and there is no "God" of any sort.
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