The Trinity Explained

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@TOO- He did sacrifice part of himself.

To what did he sacrifice part of himself?

If you picure it like a person, God the Father would be from the neck up. God the Son would be from the neck down left side. God the Spirit would be from the neck down right side.

...so God has no control over the son and the holy spirit? Do any of them have control over each other?

Now what if each of those 3 sections had a mind and a will of their own.

Then they would be regarded as separate entities. I'll give you an example.

Conjoined twins share one body, but each have a mind of their own and have control of certain parts of that body. They are regarded as separate entities, not as one.

Your analogy also fails by differentiating between the will of the father, the son, and the holy spirit. If they are all part of a perfect being, why would the will of one need to be different from another and have a mind distinctly different than the other? Why even make that distinction?

The only whole way to function is to be of unified purpose and mind. They were also all three intrinsically aware of each other as they were all connected.

You're regarding them as separate entities in your text, and making the inference that the entities can choose for themselves to function as a unit, as they are aware of themselves. This makes no sense if you're trying to make the point that there is only one God where there are obviously 3, each with a distinct will, although they may share similar purposes.

Jesus didn't really go anywhere because he's coming back.

"Coming back" implies he went somewhere. If I go out for milk and come back, and my girlfriend asks me, where did you go? I can't say "I didn't go anywhere", when that is obviously false.

So it's like you voluntarily allow 1/3 of your body to suffer tremendous grief, pain and emotion and the tumultuousness of actually living on the planet just to get a message to us. Is that an imagery you can make sense of?

No, because it makes no sense.

You're painting a picture that God sent a part of his body (who has a mind and will of its own) to Earth in order to get a message to us by bludgeoning that part to death for a sacrifice to the rest of the body, only to resurrect that part after a weekend to join the rest of the body (who also has a mind and will of its own) in heaven, for which people are required to believe and pray to that part of the body for their ultimate salvation. But that part didn't really leave, as it's coming back, and the distinct wills and minds of the body parts are actually one, and should be regarded as one, unless they're being regarded as three, in which case 3 = 1.

....right.