'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant)

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'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant)

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RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant)

June 17, 2015 at 3:04 pm (This post was last modified: June 17, 2015 at 3:08 pm by robvalue.)

Pyrrho: what we are highlighting is that idea of having precise knowledge about yet undetermined events is a logical contradiction. Either everything is already decided and we just trot along a series of flash cards; or else it's impossible for anyone, even a god, to know what will happen.

So it's really reductio ad absurdum, "knowing the future" is horse shit if there is anything other than purely deterministic rules. And in that case, God has no free will for the same reason, and he's part of the machine rather than in charge (if he is able to know his own future).

The whole thing makes no sense, of course. It only comes about through ridiculous attempts to beef up God.

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'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by IanHulett - June 16, 2015 at 6:44 pm

'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by KUSA - June 16, 2015 at 7:13 pm

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by The Grand Nudger - June 16, 2015 at 7:14 pm

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by Minimalist - June 16, 2015 at 7:51 pm

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by Pyrrho - June 16, 2015 at 9:27 pm

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by AFTT47 - June 16, 2015 at 11:07 pm

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by Pyrrho - June 17, 2015 at 12:13 pm

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by Longhorn - June 17, 2015 at 1:57 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by ignoramus - June 17, 2015 at 4:58 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by Longhorn - June 17, 2015 at 6:13 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by Cyberman - June 17, 2015 at 3:18 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by robvalue - June 17, 2015 at 3:18 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by jjosej - June 17, 2015 at 5:20 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by Alex K - June 17, 2015 at 5:26 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by ignoramus - June 17, 2015 at 5:53 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by Alex K - June 17, 2015 at 5:56 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by Longhorn - June 17, 2015 at 6:11 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by Longhorn - June 17, 2015 at 6:59 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by ignoramus - June 17, 2015 at 6:27 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by Alex K - June 17, 2015 at 6:34 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by jjosej - June 17, 2015 at 6:55 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by Longhorn - June 17, 2015 at 7:09 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by jjosej - June 17, 2015 at 7:07 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by Cyberman - June 17, 2015 at 7:25 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by robvalue - June 17, 2015 at 7:31 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by Cyberman - June 17, 2015 at 7:32 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by ignoramus - June 17, 2015 at 7:34 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by Cyberman - June 17, 2015 at 7:38 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by robvalue - June 17, 2015 at 8:44 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by robvalue - June 17, 2015 at 12:38 pm

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by Pyrrho - June 17, 2015 at 1:09 pm

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by robvalue - June 17, 2015 at 1:10 pm

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by Pyrrho - June 17, 2015 at 2:37 pm

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by Tonus - June 17, 2015 at 1:17 pm

'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by KUSA - June 17, 2015 at 2:59 pm

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by Tonus - June 17, 2015 at 4:10 pm

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by robvalue - June 17, 2015 at 3:04 pm

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by Pyrrho - June 17, 2015 at 3:15 pm

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by ignoramus - June 18, 2015 at 3:17 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by robvalue - June 18, 2015 at 3:34 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by The Grand Nudger - June 18, 2015 at 12:31 pm

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by jjosej - June 19, 2015 at 2:29 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by The Grand Nudger - June 19, 2015 at 2:32 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by Longhorn - June 19, 2015 at 2:33 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by Cyberman - June 19, 2015 at 7:40 am

RE: 'God' is starting to make less sense to me. (rant) - by Tonus - June 19, 2015 at 7:34 am

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