(June 18, 2015 at 7:58 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(June 18, 2015 at 7:51 pm)Iroscato Wrote: And yet again we run into the same wall - where did this creator come from? If a complex object such as the universe could only have been designed, where the hell did the infinitely more complex and powerful creator come from? All answers I've ever seen for this boil down to "oh, well god exists outside of reality so he's exempt".
Muleshit. A creator should always be the LAST option considered by a theory, after every possible alternative has been thoroughly and exhaustively debunked. Anything less is a grave betrayal of the power of the human mind.
Hi Iroscato. That's a fair point.
To believe in God is to believe that He is a supernatural being. Everything in nature came from something. The supernatural, though, is not bound by the laws of nature.
What are your personal theories regarding this, btw?
The first line of that reply actually made me say "holy shit!" out loud, aaaand then you made the exact same tired-out old mantra that I've seen countless times already. Props for acknowledging my argument to a degree, however.
As for my personal theory...THAT...would take a much longer post than I can muster up the energy to type out at 1AM on my phone. Perhaps tomorrow.
And I'm hardly an expert in the field of cosmology, space enthusiast though I may be.
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