RE: Q about arguments for God's existence.
June 20, 2015 at 4:46 pm
(This post was last modified: June 20, 2015 at 4:50 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(June 20, 2015 at 9:16 am)ignoramus Wrote:(June 20, 2015 at 5:15 am)Stimbo Wrote: Here's the thing, Cat Lady. You've stated that there is no evidence for your pet god and that it all comes down to faith (and then knock me for having "more faith" in something that actually has physical evidence, but that's by the by). The point I'm aiming for is that you've also made statements which run counter to that, about the (super)nature of this god, its powers and actions. For example, what makes you call it a 'he' and how do you know it created the Universe? Not to mention the question I already asked, by what mechanism is it supposed to have done so?
In fairness to CL, she's already admitted to believing and having faith without needing solid scientific evidence.
And we all persist in asking her for scientific evidence?
Everyone sit back, take a deep breath, and stop fucking persecuting the Christian!
Hey, thank you for this post! :-)
(June 20, 2015 at 4:30 pm)Iroscato Wrote:(June 20, 2015 at 4:22 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: As far as I know, your reaction is you disagree. I don't see why I should be thought of as anything less than you.It is far more logical to instead consider that nature creates nature. With the intelligent creator hypothesis you just get a healthy dose of infinite regress, requiring special pleading like "Oh it's not natural, it's SUPERnatural!"
The fact that anything in nature could came from nothing seems like it should be about on par with the fact that there is a supernatural element that does not *need* to come from something. (hence the "supernatural"... it defies the laws of nature)
Of course, the latter seems more logical to me, but as far as we're objectively concerned there is no proof of either and we cannot explain either given what science has provided for us thus far.
They are on equal grounds on that respect, so I don't think I should be considered ignorant or stupid for believing in one over the other.
Tell me CL, how much research have you done into alternate theories for the origin of the universe?
That is your opinion. Whether it is more logical or not, it is, nonetheless, something that cannot be explained and has not been scientifically proven. In my opinion, it is not more logical.
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