RE: Q about arguments for God's existence.
June 21, 2015 at 3:29 pm
(This post was last modified: June 21, 2015 at 3:31 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(June 21, 2015 at 3:07 pm)robvalue Wrote: The problem with calling anything supernatural is that you just cut off every possible way that you can know anything about it, so you're reduced to guessing.
Hm? We are all reduced to "guessing" on this in the sense that we have no proof.
Quote:No, I have no idea. That doesn't mean I can't recognise a bad idea when I see it.
For example, I don't need to know the exact square root of 8 to know it isn't 2.5.
Rob, I don't think you realize what you just said here.
Having no idea, and not knowing exactly, are 2 different things.
Someone who has no idea what the square root of 8 is, wouldn't know that 2.5 isn't an option.
You saying "I don't know exactly how the first thing came about. But I know 100% it wasn't God." Is perfectly reasonable.
You saying "I have no idea how the first thing came about. But I know 100% it wasn't God." Is contradictory.
(June 21, 2015 at 3:09 pm)Neimenovic Wrote:(June 21, 2015 at 3:07 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: my bold
But you saying you "have no idea" is not entirely accurate, because you are vehemently certain that one theory (a supernatural element) is not it. So you do have some sort of an idea, even if that idea is just "definitely not God."
Or am I misunderstanding?
This is that 'atheism is a belief' shit all over again -_-
I don't know. I'm saying your theory is improbable. Not that it's definitely not it no matter what.
Not having a theory is not a theory.
Not having a theory doesn't mean I can't evaluate other people's theories. Ok?
Gotcha. Sorry. I thought you had 100% certainty that God or any supernatural being does not exist. I didn't realize that you merely thought is was improbable, but were not certain. That makes more sense now. Thank you.
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