(June 21, 2015 at 2:42 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(June 21, 2015 at 8:55 am)Stimbo Wrote: There is a fundamental difference, though. "I don’t know and neither do you; let's investigate" will always trump "I know and neither do you; therefore God" every time.
Neither of us has concrete proof.
But I believe there is a supernatural element involved,
and you believe things just came from nothing, or have always been.
We each believe something without proof of it.
When have I ever said either of those things? Do I go around telling you what you believe?
Knock that strawman shit off. It's incredibly rude.
I don't care what you believe; what you can demonstrate to be true is what counts. And the only one talking about concrete proof here is you. All the evidence so far obtained - from the Cosmic Microwave Background radiation to the Hubble shift - points towards a naturalistic origin. If there was a supernatural element involved, there is no way to discern it using the evidence at hand. Not honestly, anyway.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'