(October 3, 2010 at 5:08 am)blood_pardon Wrote: I dont think he has a proper understanding of the evidence surrounding the BB and how it actually shows God created the universe ex nihilio, but I agree with his main point and it is mine. You do not have a BETTER explanation.Here's a thought experiment: You walk by a construction yard and observe a cat and a small rat both wander into a section of plastic piping at opposite ends, the cat emerges out the other side, but the rat does not.
Trying to figure out what happened to the rat you visit the construction yard the next day but the plastic poly-pipes are all gone with no remains of the rat. No one else witnessed what happened but you.
What happened to the rat? You hazard many educated/uneducated/imaginative guesses - the rat scared the cat... the cat ignored the rat but the rat was too scared to move... the cat and rat passed by each other in separate pipes within the poly-pipe... the rat was an alien that teleported back to its mother ship... the rat died of natural causes... the rat escaped through an unseen hole in the piping... and so on.
All of these possibilities seem absurd to you because none have evidence, so desperate are you for an answer you latch onto the most appealing scenario you can think of: that the rat was killed and eaten by the cat because the rat did not emerge out the other side but the cat did.
Irrespective of that, you can't present a valid justifiable answer; the only honest answer here is "I don't know", regardless of how frustrating it is not knowing the true order of events or having a 'better' explanation.
At least we know there was a big bang event billions of years ago because there's radio-wave evidence of this to support the theory, but to speculate what happened before that, what occurred before time and space is futile because our understanding of the laws of physics start to breakdown and we've no experimental evidence to work with. We don't know. Arguing any further at this point is either for the logically unknowable or impossible. That doesn't necessarily mean scientists won't figure out what prompted the bang, but the current unexplained is just that, the unexplained.