(June 26, 2015 at 12:25 am)paulpablo Wrote:(June 25, 2015 at 11:58 pm)Brian37 Wrote: 1.Yes we do know that gods do not exist, in the same way we know parents invent Santa to get children to behave. They are products of human imagination reflecting humans desires.
2. False analogy. The skeptic plays into the delusion of the theist by trying to split the baby with "We don't know" We also don't know when the first clouds formed but science does not default to Poseidon being the cause of hurricanes. We do know conditions, so what came prior to this universe even if unknown at this point still would not require a super natural cognition. Stephen Hawkins "A god is not required"
You contradict yourself, you're saying my answer of "I don't know" Is a false analogy but yet in the next line you admit that you don't know where the universe comes from by saying "We also don't know when the first clouds formed.."
Also I never mentioned god when talking about the universe, AND when I typed "Don't know" I actually meant that I personally don't know, not that we collectively don't know, I believe he was asking us individually to reply to him and that was my individual reply.
No I do not contradict myself. Semantically and "technically" since you have not lived for eternity or seen or know every nook and cranny of the universe, by your logic, a super natural unicorn caused all this. Now you know damned well that is not true. Employ Ocham's razor to claims of god and the answer is clear. Between the choice of a god existing or humans making them up, which to you seems more likely?
If you already accept, and I would hope rightfully so, that Poseidon does not cause hurricanes, what makes you think that " all this" needs any sort of cognition to start it? I see all this as nothing more than a giant weather pattern we are riding in as a mere finite blip. The universe does not require us to exist nor does it need a cognition to happen.
Technically monkeys might fly out of my butt. How much time do you waste considering that?
