(June 26, 2015 at 1:59 am)Louis Chérubin Wrote: SteelCurtain,
Thanks for answering the question. Regarding your assessment of me, believe it or not, I actually feel that the evidence I've seen points to a creator. Have you read Misia Landau's Narratives of Human Evolution? Apparently the interpretation of evidence has more to do with presuppositions than actual empirical truth.
"The question to ask, then, is not what do fossils tell us about human evolution but what is it about human evolution . . . that through fossils is getting said."
I'm glad to hear you aren't a dogmatist about your beliefs. :-)
We all have presuppositions. Scientists, by and large, attempt to remove these presuppositions from their interpretations of evidence. What you are suggesting, (by begging a creator god) is the very worst type of presuppositionalism. You are starting from a conclusion. This is the worst backwards thinking. No one started with an idea for evolution and sought to prove it with the fossil record. The start was observation in nature, and from that evidence came a hypothesis, which has been tested and proven over and over again.
We have had the morality thread. This will be the third thread for morality in the last month. See "What IS good..." by Catholic_Lady and "Why be good?" by Randy Carson. Well over 2500 posts on where morality comes from. Evolution we haven't done in earnest since Rev777 and his 7 proofs. (Of which he only got 2-3 done and claimed victory despite getting thoroughly smacked around.) If you're interested in actually learning what you're arguing against, then maybe you should make a thread with your questions?
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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