RE: Do you have the right to be an atheist?
June 29, 2015 at 4:13 pm
(This post was last modified: June 29, 2015 at 4:19 pm by Aristocatt.)
(June 29, 2015 at 3:57 pm)pool Wrote: @Cato ,
Our ignorance does not make something supernatural by definition.
Actually,by definition it does,since our scientific knowledge/understanding would not be able to explain a particular phenomenon due to our ignorance.
@Aristocatt ,
I'm not sure if that's where we are disagreeing at i'll have to think about it.
But staying up at 1:28am with a sleepy brain isn't helping me much,i'll think about it and i'll find something we are mutually disagreeing on and we can then further progress our argument.
It is, and my question is pretty simple.
Think of it like this. There is an object, say a sphere. A quality of that sphere would be that it is round.
Similarly a quality of me, is that I am alive.
The answer to the question is yes, supernatural is a quality applied to an object.
Any time you say X is Y, Y is a quality of X.
So when you say "aliens are supernatural", you are making an assertion about the quality of an alien race.
Here is how this works, using an easier example:
If I were to utter one assertion, that assertion could either be true or false.
Whether it is true or false will give me a particular quality. That quality being that I am either honest, or dishonest.
Say the assertion was, "yesterday I went outside".
You however do not know if I went outside, but you decide to come to the conclusion that I am being dishonest.
So you, in disbelief, say ,"You are dishonest".
Say I did in fact go outside yesterday. If I provided you sufficient enough proof that I did in fact go outside, your opinion of me might change. You might then go onto say "You are honest".
Now the question is, was I a dishonest man until I provided you evidence and then I became honest, or was I honest the entire time?
If you say that I was honest the whole time, you adhere the statement below.
The qualities of an object do not change unless the object itself changes.