RE: Do you have the right to be an atheist?
June 29, 2015 at 4:15 pm
(This post was last modified: June 29, 2015 at 4:18 pm by Simon Moon.)
(June 29, 2015 at 4:02 pm)pool Wrote:(June 29, 2015 at 3:57 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Yep. I'm officially frustrated by your lack of critical thinking skills.
I did not assume anything.
It does not matter if we are unaware of the aliens discovery. Just because we believe it is supernatural, does not make it supernatural.
If humans never discovered how to create heavier than air flight, and an alien race showed up in a biplane, it would not be supernatural. No matter how many humans thought it was.
I think you misunderstood me.I didn't mean that you assume the existence of the aliens that made this discovery.
I meant that your argument assumed that humans knew about and had a clear idea of the discovery these aliens made.Which would make it natural because we can now explain it according to our scientific knowledge.
But since we don't,we can't.
I understand your frustration,it i were you i would get frustrated too.
@Simon Moon,
Supernatural: " attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature. "
I don't know what you just did there but you definitely made a logically incorrect assumption.
According to this definition,
The inability to explain something does make it supernatural, by default.
If it doesn't,there is something wrong with the definition,not with my argument.
Yeah, you're here just to yank everyone's chain, right?
Yes, that is the definition of supernatural alright.
But who says that if teleportation were to occur in my presence, I would "attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature"?
I might just say, "That was weird. I wonder what the explanation is?".
Again, just because something is unexplained, does not mean that it is supernatural. It just means that it is unexplained.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.