(July 2, 2015 at 7:54 am)popsthebuilder Wrote: The Lord is nature and can be seen everywhere in everything
Please show me scientific proof of this assumption.
Quote:You are right it is about logic and common sense. you people act like everything is here for your pleasure.
For starters, "you people" is really not a cool thing to say because there was only ME creating this thread. In this thread, I do not speak on behalf of my atheist brothers and sisters. Be very careful about treading in water that may drown you. Second of all, it's a pretty narcissistic thing to accuse "us people" of thinking that everything is here for our pleasure. Please provide credible references to prove that.
Quote:Life is a battle, but people like you aren't even fighting.
You obviously know NOTHING of my life, my struggles or what I "fight".
Quote:You take lack of proper upbringing and turn it into unconditional acceptance of everything as if some shit isn't wrong , then bitch and moan becouse you have no direction. You don't ever wonder why so many are so miserable?
Sweetheart, any upbringing I had is something that YOU do not have firsthand knowledge of. Again, more assumptions made by you, someone who hasn't even been on these forums for an entire month, know NOTHING about. Furthermore, my direction is just fine thank you. I don't need a magical sky daddy to have morals or direction. If anything I was MORE miserable when I was a believer. I am free now. Free to think and choose and not have to worry about kissing the ass of an imaginary friend in the hopes that I'll get into a magical place called heaven, that no one has ever been able to prove exists.
Quote:The ones that aren't miserable are ignorant.
Is this your opinion or are you stating a fact?
Quote:The morons that lack the capacity to take the ancient texts as lessons and instead try to discredit them by implying that they are first account records of actual events in every case simply don't want to believe in anything else.
Ahh but you think it perfectly acceptable to cherry pick which parts of the OT you find totally acceptable to apply to the present day. Sorry dude, you don't get to lecture me, an atheist, who doesn't believe in your god or your book anyway, about a few verses here and there and then blatantly say, oh but they are just lessons that really aren't real because they aren't first account records of actual events. If you are going to believe in your bible and you are going to say that there are lessons to be learned from it then you have to believe in ALL parts of your bible. Even the ones you don't like. Such as your god committing the first ever act of genocide to people he supposedly loved. Because well, fuck creation.
Quote:It isn't some dude with a beard floatin around waiting to step on you when you fuck up. Get that portrayal out of your mind.
Where ever did I say that this was the impression I had in my mind. Your bible presents your Abrahamic god in a horrendous light. He is portrayed as a Misogynist, narcissist, psychopathic, slave approving, fucked up law making, evil, evil, evil thing that if you don't fear him and do as he says, he will send you to the bowels of internal damnation. But... But... butttttttt.... he's a loving god. If that is love - no thanks. I don't want any part of that shit. Oh yeah... and he also doesn't want you to see him. The movie The Wizard Of OZ comes to mind here. Very convenient stuff.
Quote:You can consider the Lord the creation of all good things. Some things in nature are not good for us exactly but that doesn't mean that God is out to get you.
Yeah.. tell that to all the starving children in Africa. Tell that to all the children who suffer from abuse. Tell that to cancer patients. Tell that to people born without body parts.
Quote:Bad shit happens. It is part of nature.
If your god was all powerful and all knowing, and omnipotent, then he could correct all of that by removing the "bad shit" from "nature".
Quote:There is no wonder why you can't see. It's because you refuse.
Please show me proof of the existence of god.
Quote:Nature doesn't usually intervien with nature.
Incorrect. Nature most certainly does intervene with itself. There are thousands of examples all around you. Some are weather related, some are survival of species related, some are catastrophic event related - you know earthquakes, volcanic eruptions.
Quote:The truth is that the Lord and the unspeakebke are not the same thing so all the negative shit that you foolishly associate with God can be associated with evil which isn't the Lord.
Okay. I gotta stop you right here because that was more bullshit than I could handle. Your Abrahamic god IS the very essence of evil. Read your goddamned bible and you will see plenty of references in there. The story of Noah is one. Moses is another. What an asshole your god must be if he provided transportation for Noah, but couldn't do the same for Moses and his people. What a bastard. And asking one of his devoted to kill off their own son, just to please him? That one really chaps my ass because in this day and age, THAT would be considered premeditated MURDER. But according to you - god isn't evil.
Quote:The Lord will not abolish shit.Because he is not all powerful and doesn't exist. Thank you for making my point.
Quote:It's good to question. That way you can see when you are being manipulated.
It's bad to assume. Sadly, you can't even see how much your religion has brainwashed you.
Your arguments are weak, at best and are nothing more than accusations. Please, if you're going to jump into a battle of wits, at least bring something tangible to the table to work with other than unprovable opinions and pathetic attempts to shame someone who is not brainwashed by your so-called religion or your gawd.
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand.
