Calling it into question...

[Joods]

Hi pops,

So you're some sort of pantheist or deist then?

Sorry, who are you addressing this to? All atheists? Because you misrepresent me in a most dismissive and insulting way! An apology is due for your crass and unrepresentative generalisation.

...are the biblical fundamentalists. Very few atheists, in the Western hemisphere at least, expect literalist interpretations of religious texts because that's not the way religions manifest here, typically. That said, I have seen it happen once or twice and I've criticised such arguments in exactly the same way I would jump on fundamentalism.

That's your interpretation. Many other theists would disagree with you. Certainly 'the big paternal beard in the sky' is the common imagery used in Europe.

I don't believe that there is any such 'lord' so I won't consider it as anything, thanks very much.

If you believe in an omni-everything god, responsible for creating everything, it necessarily follows that God put 'bad shit' out there deliberately. It may not be personal but such a god would certainly be responsible for unimaginable suffering & grief and should be held accountable for its actions.

Or might it be because there's nothing to see?

So you don't believe in a benevolent god then?

But if the Lord is responsible for creating everything, it must be also responsible for evil. There's no escaping that, no matter how hard you try to reallocate accountability.

If that were true, it would be provided and verified. Since that hasn't happened, in spite of repeated requests for it, your assertion can be dismissed.

'Personal' proof is no proof at all. Once I'm dead, there's no verifiable evidence to suggest that I'll have any experience of anything.

Given your previous statements regarding 'the bad shit', this is contradictory. Which is it? A god that begets suffering and misery or a god who loves his creation? You can't have it both ways.

Once again, an attempt to shift accountability for 'the bad shit' away from your god.



I have and such reading clearly reinforces the idea that gods are man-made concepts. Why would you think that they would lead me to your conclusions?

What makes you think that they were 'better' than us in those ways?

By your god's design?

#batteredspousesyndrome

Firstly, I apologize for stereotyping.

That being said.
As hard as it is for me to admitted simply because I will loose some; the merciful, yet righteous Lord I speak of is the One Lord, but is not solely responsible for bad things. There must be balance. There is another cause for real negative. And that negative is a power. A lesser one no doubt.
There is also another force in the known Universe that is chaos. It can be described very little by me due to it's nature. It is disorder.

*boldened by me for relevance*

Damn...  ten questions were asked of you and answered: ZERO.

How about actually manning the fuck up and answering the questions asked since you wanted to be such an expert on everyone's lives (especially atheist's lives) instead of blameshifting your bullshit onto something else.

Please, get off my thread if you can't bring useful facts and relevant comments to the fucking table.