(July 3, 2015 at 9:27 am)Drich Wrote: Indeed He does.. But as I pointed out not everyone can be considered "His people."
Also Why would you think just because you love someone deeply you would remove all obsticals in their lives? More often than not it is the threats, pains and dangers of this life that has Humanity/people grow.
Death is not the end you think it is. It is our birth into eternity, so why would God keep us from it? The only reason to fear and hate death is if you are not right with God. Then death becomes the ultimate end/punishment, and all who endorse paths that lead to early death as wicked.
You don't have a God problem. You have a basic life comprehension/philosphy problem.
Right... and to be considered "his people" one has to fear him and obey him and just "believe" that he's around, somewhere, making promises that if you fear and obey him, he won't send you to hell. I'm sorry Drich, but it's not a basic life comprehension/philosophy problem that I have. It is not even a problem. It's the basic, undeniable fact that there is no evidence whatsoever that this "god" individual exists. So what happens, if say, someone like yourself, lives out their whole life believing in the promises of this "god", only to find out upon your death that that's it. There is no heaven. There is no hell. There is simply nothing after you die. You would have spent your whole life believing in something that turned out to be nothing.
I don't necessarily "fear" death in the way that the Abrahamic god would want his people to fear it. I don't necessarily look forward to it - I'm only 44. Still young by my standards. I'm just not ready to face it head on. I still have many years left to live, to screw up, to make mistakes and to grow.
You are also right in the fact that I don't have a "god" problem. I can't have a problem with a non-existent entity, who refuses to show himself to his people - even after 2000 years.
Yes, indeed, the times have changed and words from the time the book was supposedly written about, for the most part, don't really have the exact same meanings. That said, there are still many people out there who literally live by the word of god. And sadly, those are the same people who make excuses for all the parts of the bible they don't want to live by. Seventh Day Adventists are known for this. My ex - his family are Seventh Day Adventists. They follow "some" of the rules of the OT, but only the ones they feel they want to. For instance, they won't eat "unclean" meat, even though in the NT, it says all meat is clean, but they will wear mixed fabrics and some women do keep their hair short. It's a mixed bag of confusion and other than lack of proof of existence, just one of the things that is a turn off.
Additionally, one would think, that after all this time has passed, surely god would appear to his people - you know - give them something to see, because after 2000 years or 6000 years (depending on how one looks at it) of being absent from view, he should show up and say... Hey, I'm still here and I love you. If he is real, I want to hear HIM tell ME he loves ME. I don't want to hear it from some 100th generation person who's never met him either.
But there is nothing. And after thousands of years, the expectation is still that one has to have "blind faith". I would think there would be so many more disappointed people roaming the earth by now. I compare the "father" to a deadbeat parent. You know.. the one that makes promises to see their child, and after the child eagerly waits on the steps of their house, waiting for their mom or dad to come and visit or or pick them up, the parent never shows. Do that to a kid several times and the kid starts to feel like they aren't important enough, so they start thinking that their missing parent isn't important because of so many broken promises. Honestly, the let down is real. The entity who is responsible for the cause of that, isn't. And if anyone wants to make the point of the let down being the fault of man, then that is an admittance that religion is a man made idea.
Obviously I'm not alone in this line of thinking. Ya know?
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