(July 3, 2015 at 9:27 am)Drich Wrote: Why?
In this day and age given the threats by ISIS alquida, and the like. Can you not ever see a reason to wipe your deep ceded enemy from all power and possible threat?
If God truly gave us the power to not choose Him, then the other extreme (deep dark evil) has the opportunity to ingrain itself into a person or even a whole society of people.
Drich, sorry for not answering the other questions in the post. I'll have to finish it here because I didn't want to create a ten mile long post.
So bear with me while I take your questions one by one.
Why to what? Why do I love calling things into question? Because I like investigating, challenging ideas and thoughts and I seek some answers in the form of verifiable proof - such as this topic.
I don't support ISIS or it's ilk or their ideals either. Same with their religious views - twisted as they are. Do they need to be wiped from all power and possible threat - yes because they have demonstrated how evil they are by showing us proof (beheadings on video, shootings, bombings etc.) Their threat is real. The Abrahamic god has made threats to his own people in the bible, but since no one can prove he actually exists, personally, I don't find his threats credible to me. I don't believe that there is an eternal damnation waiting for those who don't bow down and obey.
Quote::Roflol: Do you support abortion?
I support a woman's right to choose. It's her body. This is especially true in a life threatening situation, where if the choice has to be made to save her life or that of her unborn child, then she should be the one to make that call.
Quote:??? The only thing He says you can't eat is what you think it is a sin to eat... What are you talking about?
Unclean meat - cloven hoof, shellfish, can't mix meat with cheese etc. Leviticus explains this.
Quote:Do you not understand the term covet? It means to long or lust after your (alive) neighbor's wife.
Perhaps I don't and I'm willing to admit that error. But it was supposed to go along with the following example I cited in that what I was referring to was that while you can't "long" after your neighbor's wife, you can take your brother's wife as your own.
Quote:Do you know what would have happened to the widow if the brother did not marry her and have a son with her? Remember she did not live in modern western society. Meaning no welfare, no rights after the husband died, no way to support her family. So she would have to turn to slavery, or she would have died, and her husband's lands/holding would be lost to her and any young children.
To marry your dead brother's wife was the way that ancient society supported widows and their children.
Point made, however, do you think that the Abrahamic god would still approve of a man taking his brother's wife (after brother dies), in this day and age? What about what the bible says about divorce? I do not see any Christians rising up in arms about the high divorce rate in this country.
Quote:God's Home is creation. ALL Of It. You and anyone who does not want to spend eternity in the service of God is 'ISIS'. Why should God force us (Christians) to spend eternity fighting the rest of you? Hell is the one place 'we' (Christians) are not.
Calling everyone who does not believe in god, ISIS, is really harsh and not true at all. According to the Christian free will argument, your god isn't forcing you to fight me or ISIS or anyone. Don't join the military and you won't be taking the chance on getting sent overseas to fight people like that. As far as fighting me - the only thing we have a differing of is religion and the issues surrounding it. For all I know, you might love Italian food. I make Italian food. That right there would be something we'd agree on. Not everything has to be a fight. I've had to learn to pick and choose my battles carefully in my real life. Some things are just not worth fighting over.
Quote:God has provided a surplus of food in the west, and has commanded us (in the west/those with) to distribute it. This is not a God issue, this is a wicked servant issue. If it were a God issue then their would just flat out not be enough food.
There are thousands of children in our own country, not just other countries, who are starving because their parents make too much money to qualify for assistance, but make not quite enough to pay all the bills. When it comes down to being forced to pay out your ass for mandatory healthcare or be fined (read: taxed) for refusal to having it, and whether or not you can make your utility payment or buy food for your kids - then there's a problem. And it's a problem the government created. But if god was real - he has the power to do something about it.
Furthermore, in countries were there are droughts, where the river beds have been dry for years, where they once were full of life, if god were real, he could easily make it rain and fill up the rivers once again. He could bring water forth to those African countries desperate for it so they could plant fields and feed themselves. I'm just sayin. If one believes he flooded out the earth, surely he can produce enough rain to make crops grow in the places that need rain the most.
Quote:What makes you think science and medicine means God is not at work? Are you so foolish to think that God can only work in the unexplainable? If so where did you get that idea?
Science is not god and god is not science. If that were the case, we would have irrefutable proof of his existence. Instead, we get people selling Jesus toast on Ebay for $20,000 because "it's a sign." No.. a real sign would be the example I've cited. THAT would be a real, provable miracle, which could be documented.
The Native American Indians didn't believe in the Abrahamic god prior to the British coming over here. Yet the NI medicine men and women, (doctors, if you must) used herbs, cannabis, leaves, tree bark etc to heal their sick. That had nothing to do with god.
Quote:Cancer and 'other deadly diseases' are or can be tools God uses to strengthen and grow our understanding and faith. Why would He remove such an effective tool?
In what capacity can a horrid disease such as cancer be used as a tool to strengthen or grow any understanding and faith of any god? To say that cancer or an incurable/deadly disease is an effective tool, is tantamount to saying that god gave you that cancer or that deadly disease because you either sinned, or didn't believe in him, so therefore,you must be punished a slow, torturous and painful death that will eat you from the inside out.
Those are not tools of compassion or love. If they are god's tools, he's a cruel and hateful god.
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