Meaning of Right and Wrong... Finally Answered!

[Cerrone]

(I'd post more responses if I had time, but I really just need to say this.)
feminism is supposed to be about equality. it has just got a bad rep from some outspoken assholes. I think there should be a different name for it now, because of that and it's not like their aren't certain expectations of men that shouldn't exist. or for instance only men have to sing up for selective services.

(I am not going to rant, now. sorry, I don't have time to post about the thread at the moment.)

I can appreciate that Cego, in my experience though- and there has only really been exception and this was the leader of an Iraqi freedom for women organisation (who was quite charming)- the women i've spoken to who have come out loudly and dare I say brutishly talking about feminism seem to be the same women whose behaviour is situated purely from a point of hatred, jealously or frustration with men, and who have no idea about the original intention of feminism, which was as you said, to move towards gender equality.

Although something i've noticed with the behaviour of women in general, in england at least, who seem to push towards gender equality... they try and acheive it by imitating the more self destructive behaviour of men, by acting like idiots, trying to be tom-boys and drinking themselves to death... which is absurd. I mean, if you want somebody to respect you more, you don't copy the most negative aspects of their behaviour do you? Hell no. It makes me have even less respect for that kind of woman than I did before frankly.. and I hope any women reading this who notice the same traits in their behvaiour should have a long hard think about what the fuck they're doing to themselves. Its disgrace. Really. These women are going to be mothers someday... i dread to think what kind of genetically inferior, braindead idiots my kids are going to grow up having to deal with in the future.

hahah just had to get that off my chest.

I don't think the "selection process" is at all useful in the sense of pairing of man and woman (and this is if you believe in enforced monogamy at all), you mentioned charisma, but without intelligence all charisma is is the ability to talk shit. Therefore women may end up with a very stupid man who has a way with words i.e "lying", and that's certianly no survival trait worth having.

But we as a culture seem to accept and socially encourage shit-talking and spinning lies because it's good business sense that'd serve you well in the exploitative world of capitalism... and that's true, you'll get no arguement from me there. But what's the consequence of this? Surely every generation parented by these kind of people just get stupider, vainer and more dishonest. Is that worth survival? The human race may endure, but it'll be repugnant, even more than it is today.

Pacian, respond to the above. It's not worth glossing over it.