(July 3, 2015 at 11:11 am)Chad32 Wrote:(July 3, 2015 at 8:49 am)Rekeisha Wrote: So all you have said is man is not an authority on how it all started. Also you are right there was never just nothing there was God.
So How does DNA and mutation give us morals and survival instincts?
There is solid evidence for God you just refuse to recognize it.
Since you have set your mind to dislike Him you have choosen to see everything he does as hateful.
There may not be an original document but there are so many copies of the text that we have a good understanding of what the originals have said. The bible as an ancient text has more copies than any other ancient text. Also from the full documents they do have there are no doctrinal changes.
Your assertion that He doesn't own everything doesn't stop Him for owning everything. If you made something for yourself you would own it right so why is it suddenly wrong for God to own the thing He created? He wants us to obeyHhim freely that is why you are given an option. If you choose to worship yourself instead of God then you will become just like what you worship. Also, He isn't done fixing things He is being patient waiting for people to repent.
Fine. In the beginning there was god. I'll convert to Hinduism as soon as I'm done celebrating the 4th of July.
That may be more cultural evolution than genetic evolution. I'm not a biologist. I just know that we have general rules for abiding within a group. Even though there is overlap between groups, like not killing or stealing, these rules don't always stay the same for people outside of the group. Therefore they are subjective. They change depending on who they are targeted against. Hence the different terms for killing and murder. Killing your brother is murder. Killing the stranger from the neighboring lands is just war.
Well do be sure to provide that solid evidence to the scientific community, get yourself a nobel prize, and work towards keeping god's followers from killing each other for interpretational differences.
I don't think everything he does is hateful. Just enough things that I think he has screwed priorities, a psychopathic personality at times, and isn't worthy of worship. In short, anyone who demands praise and worship is automatically unworthy of having it.
Have you ever watched movies about people building robots that can think for themselves? Notice how people who insist the free thinking robots are property tend to be considered the bad guys of the film? If I make a car, I own it. If I give it to someone, I'm not allowed to just take it back ten years down the road. If I have a child, and decide to kill it, I will go to jail. Even outside of a theocracy, where people think the child is alive because of a god, instead of because I had sex. Just because I create something, doesn't mean I get to do whatever I want with it at any time.
I'm glad he's done trying to fix things. Now if only he'd step down and let someone more competent be in charge, things might get better. I have noticed that more secular societies that prioritize more on equality than theocracy or just one guy being in charge, tend to do better in the world than others.
So are you saying that there are no basic morals?
The definition of science is the knowledge about or study of the natural world based on facts learned through experiments and observation. Therefore any discussion of God goes beyond the realm of science.
I try not to base reality from fiction
People were meant to praise and worship. You may not worship God but you worship something. People are made to breath air we can get in the water but we will die if we try to breath it. As with God when we worship anything else we die because we were made to worship Him. That is how we work.
Who do you propose would be better to govern people than God?
