RE: Agnostic among Atheists
July 4, 2015 at 5:34 pm
(This post was last modified: July 4, 2015 at 5:40 pm by Whateverist.)
(July 4, 2015 at 4:49 pm)Saxmoof Wrote:(July 4, 2015 at 4:46 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: (bold mine)
What? That's not true...
Doomed, "atheist" and "agnostic" aren't mutually exclusive. Most here, me included, refer to themselves as agnostic atheists. I don't believe in any gods anyone has offered up, but I don't claim to have knowledge about whether or not they actually exist.
A/gnostic has to do with knowledge, while a/theism has to do with belief.
Welcome!
Every human that exists today and has ever existed has been agnostic and that will remain the case until a God decides to make himself known. So that means every atheist is agnostic - because atheists are humans. As for whether all agnostics are atheists.. well they're definitely not religious.., what do you call someone who isn't religious? Atheist
The fact that you deem everyone who has ever existed to have lacked true knowledge regarding the existence of a god, doesn't make them agnostic. I think being agnostic would require a person to profess that position for their own reasons.
Technically everyone is probably an atheist in regard to at least some gods, so it is probably easier to show a person that he is an atheist to some degree than to convince him he should claim agnosticism.
PS: Oops, forgot to welcome our newest member. Someone should be along soon with cookies or cake and perhaps some tea. For what it's worth, I am also both an agnostic and an atheist. Of the two, I'd say the agnosticism is more informative about who I am and also more important to me personally. But like you I primarily don't give a hoot whether something so poorly defined as a god exists. Let's just say it isn't in my urgent file.