(July 4, 2015 at 9:08 pm)Chad32 Wrote:Sorry that I didn't respond yesterday I didn't see this.(July 4, 2015 at 1:35 pm)Rekeisha Wrote: So are you saying that there are no basic morals?
The definition of science is the knowledge about or study of the natural world based on facts learned through experiments and observation. Therefore any discussion of God goes beyond the realm of science.
I try not to base reality from fiction
People were meant to praise and worship. You may not worship God but you worship something. People are made to breath air we can get in the water but we will die if we try to breath it. As with God when we worship anything else we die because we were made to worship Him. That is how we work.
Who do you propose would be better to govern people than God?
There are basic rules for getting along with a group. Rules that practically every group has in order to function.
Yes, science is the study of the natural universe. Which is everything we've found any evidence of. Science is the best method of finding out how the universe works. There is no way to test the existence of supernatural forces. We have never found out how something works, and discovered that it's by anything other than natural forces.
You seem to base your reality on untestable things. If it can't be tested, it may as well be fictional.
We can study water and air, and know why we need it. We can't study gods, so we can't say anything conclusive about what they are, what they want, or what we're supposed to do about it.
People worthy of leadership are those that have the best interests of the population at heart. Someone who works as a public servant. Not a ruler. The president of my country is not meant to be someone we unquestionably obey. He is supposed to work for us. We, as a whole, are his boss. He should be working to keep us happy, healthy, and wealthy. Not use us to make him richer. that is what we need in a leader. Not a lord and master who we have to please on pain of death.
So are emotions, a person's character, thoughts, understanding, and ideas not real? Science can only study the brain but it can not physically grab hold of these things and study them. Are quarks real? No one has seen them.
I have said you can look at the bible but you have refused so the only reason it is untestable is because you will not test it.
You can't physically study me at my computer right now the only way you can know what I am thinking or what I would like is by reading my written words. God wrote His words down in a book and not just that if you submit to Him and repent form your sins you could even get to know what he is like because you have Him all wrong.
What if what the people think will make them healthy, wealthy and happy will no actually do that but the president. Then he proceeds to put that in action do you think the people will see him as a good leader?