Meaning of Right and Wrong... Finally Answered!

[theVOID]

theVoid, after thinking about what your saying about desires, I can't say your on the wrong path. You desiring not to get murder, not to get raped, or not to be stolen from. But I feel its just a piece of what I already have been describing.

I'm sure I already pointed out that our desires go far beyond survival, as does morality. Where you are unable to find survival based reasons for many moral propositions, Desires can describe all of them.

For example, theses desires you talk about, where do they come from.

Desires are brain states that are downstream from the dopamine system and are the brain states directly related to action. For example, if I say to you "I am going to KFC to get something to eat" You know that I have both the desire for food and the belief that going to KFC will help to fulfil my desires. Thus, the brain state that is 'desire' is responsible for all action I may take.

It is impossible to take action without desire.

Why would they be there in the first place. I feel that you can see these desires all come from humans self interest of wanting to survive.

My desire to smoke weed after class has nothing to do with survival...

These desires obviously didn't come from spirits whispering into our ear what we should think, these desires are really just more mechnism to keep us going, such as not wanting to get murdered or stolen from, or raped.

Not a reason to keep going, they are why we go in the first place. If you did not desire to survive you would take no action towards that end in the first place. Any animal that protects it's self from predators has a desire to survive. In that sense desires supersede survival.

Its really just a piece of the puzzle and I think it ultimately leads to people wanting to survive, and that is why we have these desires, in those circumstances. I would elaborate more but I got to run...

I don't think so. Morality is a standard by which we judge action, all actions (including actions toward survival) are informed by desires, thus morality is a standard by which we judge desires and a moral action is one that promotes more and stronger desires than it thwarts.