RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
July 9, 2015 at 10:56 am
(This post was last modified: July 9, 2015 at 10:56 am by Rekeisha.)
(July 8, 2015 at 2:17 pm)Chad32 Wrote:How can you account for objective data? Since you have already stated that societies have subjective morals then there are no objective right and wrong, which means there is no true right and wrong. Since you believe that there is no Creator who gave us worth and meaning then your world view can't account for any true worth or mean. I don' know if you like him or not but Richard Dawkins has already said "The universe ... no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference.” So if you are going to be consistent with your world view then you shouldn't get mad at any injustice.(July 8, 2015 at 10:48 am)Rekeisha Wrote: If you come at the bible as if it were just words in a book then you can study it all day and not be changed. If you believe it is the word of God and that you need to submit your life to God then your life will change. See a Christian is not one by just word or works but there must be and understanding of your sin/disobedience to God then you must turn from your ways and accept that Jesus died for your sins and accept the new life that is available to you. Once you do that you enter into a relationship with Him. A Christian personally knows God and His ways give us peace. Our lives are no longer centered on ourselves and what we think to be right but on the Truth.
By your world view we are just a bunch of atoms and some chemical reactions so how can you say that it is wrong for a few people to have power how can you make any moral statements?
Yahweh does a really bad job of convincing unbelievers to join his circle. Outside of violence. Hence all the violence in the old testament. So unless you're lucky enough to be born in it, you're unlikely to join, and unless you were threatened enough growing up, you're probably going to leave after giving it a skeptical read. You can use god to give you all the peace you want. That's not the side of christianity I have a problem with. It's the pastors who talk about killing all gay people, or the parents who want to avoid unwanted pregnancies and premarital sex, yet don't use the proven solutions that reduce such things, because it isn't abstinence only. Also can't forget the parents who let their children die of neglect because they believe in just faith healing.
We know these things are wrong because of objective data. This is why history is so important. We can look at societies and policies over the course of a century or more, and tell which countries have the best when it comes to stability, healthcare, and equality. Unbridled capitalism and theocracy isn't it.