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Your views on MARRIAGE
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE
(July 10, 2015 at 2:43 pm)Dystopia Wrote: I missed my dad because of the financial support it provided me - Child alimony was not the same as having the full salary available - I went trough some rough times, it was just me, my mom and my sister. Of course, some single parents can provide a lot of stability, financial support and love, but it's always easier if you have two people doing the work - And I say two people because normally these are the biological parents.

A hard question:

Essentially, when you get married (just two people) you can have kids if it's a heterosexual couple, and then the law provides all the authority, rights and duties you have with your children, not to mention you have full legal supervision until they are 18 years old (and in some States 21) - Part of this stems from the fact the parents are biological - Legally, there is a preference given to biological parents, and withing marriage both have equal rights and duties for their children - But, but... Let's imagine a less complicated scenario and say there are just three people getting married, that's cool - Two of them are of the opposite sex and have a kid, so the kid is born and obviously the law operates automatic custody and all the legal rights and duties between parents and children - What about the other person? I mean, in marriage you're not supposed to discriminate against people, and as a general rule if you get married and have kids both have equal rights, so how do we deal with this? can we violate the principle that both parties are equal? Because the custody and rights comes from the fact the child is biologically yours - Adopted children, in any legal system in the west, are not treated the same as biological ones, even in cases where parents totally suck, the rights of the tutor are never exactly as wide as of a biological parent, so how can we justify that one of the parties in the contract has less rights?

Great post and good questions.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 8, 2015 at 9:25 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by The Valkyrie - July 8, 2015 at 9:28 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Minimalist - July 8, 2015 at 9:41 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 8, 2015 at 9:43 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by SteelCurtain - July 8, 2015 at 9:49 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Pyrrho - July 9, 2015 at 6:34 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by rexbeccarox - July 8, 2015 at 9:49 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Minimalist - July 8, 2015 at 9:54 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 8, 2015 at 10:54 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Jenny A - July 8, 2015 at 9:57 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Rev. Rye - July 8, 2015 at 10:19 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Jenny A - July 8, 2015 at 10:26 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Dystopia - July 9, 2015 at 3:33 am
Your views on MARRIAGE - by KUSA - July 8, 2015 at 10:22 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Minimalist - July 8, 2015 at 10:23 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by AFTT47 - July 8, 2015 at 10:39 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Thumpalumpacus - July 8, 2015 at 10:42 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Pyrrho - July 8, 2015 at 11:07 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 8, 2015 at 11:13 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by ignoramus - July 8, 2015 at 11:15 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 8, 2015 at 11:28 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by The Valkyrie - July 8, 2015 at 11:32 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Foxaèr - July 8, 2015 at 11:32 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 8, 2015 at 11:38 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Minimalist - July 8, 2015 at 11:33 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Thumpalumpacus - July 8, 2015 at 11:59 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 9, 2015 at 12:13 am
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Thumpalumpacus - July 9, 2015 at 1:40 am
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 9, 2015 at 1:43 am
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Foxaèr - July 9, 2015 at 12:24 am
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 9, 2015 at 12:31 am
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Esquilax - July 9, 2015 at 12:39 am
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 9, 2015 at 12:51 am
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by robvalue - July 9, 2015 at 1:12 am
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Salacious B. Crumb - July 9, 2015 at 1:31 am
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 9, 2015 at 1:40 am
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 9, 2015 at 12:12 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Pyrrho - July 9, 2015 at 6:33 pm
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Longhorn - July 9, 2015 at 2:10 am
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Whateverist - July 9, 2015 at 3:03 am
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by ignoramus - July 9, 2015 at 3:36 am
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by robvalue - July 9, 2015 at 4:04 am
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by ignoramus - July 9, 2015 at 4:28 am
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Dystopia - July 9, 2015 at 8:14 am
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 9, 2015 at 10:14 am
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Dystopia - July 9, 2015 at 10:35 am
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Dystopia - July 9, 2015 at 10:56 am
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Aoi Magi - July 9, 2015 at 11:14 am
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Dystopia - July 9, 2015 at 1:49 pm
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by robvalue - July 11, 2015 at 2:07 am
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Pyrrho - July 9, 2015 at 7:16 pm
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 10, 2015 at 10:57 am
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Regina - July 9, 2015 at 6:44 pm
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Dystopia - July 9, 2015 at 7:06 pm
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 10, 2015 at 2:58 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Dystopia - July 10, 2015 at 2:43 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 10, 2015 at 2:56 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Longhorn - July 10, 2015 at 2:58 pm
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 10, 2015 at 7:16 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 10, 2015 at 3:22 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Dystopia - July 10, 2015 at 3:09 pm
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 10, 2015 at 4:20 pm
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RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by MTL - July 10, 2015 at 4:36 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Vincent - July 11, 2015 at 1:09 am
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Whateverist - July 11, 2015 at 10:27 am
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 11, 2015 at 12:22 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by ignoramus - July 11, 2015 at 10:33 am
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Whateverist - July 11, 2015 at 2:28 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Catholic_Lady - July 11, 2015 at 2:30 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Pyrrho - July 12, 2015 at 12:29 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by ignoramus - July 11, 2015 at 9:51 pm
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE - by Whateverist - July 12, 2015 at 10:36 am

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