The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work

[Rekeisha]

There is no contradiction in my thinking. Just because I don't believe in an absolute right or wrong, doesn't mean I have absolutely no basis for right or wrong. You think your god's opinion of right and wrong is absolute, despite the fact that when morality comes from someone it is subjective by definition. Your response is to just say it isn't because god is different. Different how? Different because he's on top? Might makes right, and we can't do anything about it, so we might as well agree with him.

Judging someone as evil doesn't mean I instinctively know he exists, any more than judging any other character in any other book as evil. Or good. Or somewhere in between. I think Batman is awesome. It doesn't make him real, any more than me thinking The Joker is evil.

We're at a standstill now. You claim subjective morals have no meaning because they are subjective, while stating god's morals are objective despite them coming from him instead of just something he abides by himself. I disagree on both, and neither of us is making progress convincing the other. We're just going to have to call this a draw.

If you are going to be intellectually honest with yourself you would have to come to the conclusion that in your world view there is no right and wrong.

God is different because He was never created and always was pure and never changes. Some other parts of God's characteristics are the He is holy good and righteous, He has absolutely no evil in Him. When God made the human race He made us in His image. So His qualities are instinctively built into our being. When someone defames the image of God, let say by lying, we see it as wrong because it is in opposition to our God given nature. Just like we know that there is something wrong with a person who is missing a leg. We don't think that it is some new from of evolution because we know that humans were made to have two legs. You know what is wrong in the physical but when it come to morals it is more convenient to say that morals are subjective so as to never have to come to terms with your own sin. God's has given us an opportunity to live an abundant and full life if you would repent for your sins and accept His sacrifice on th cross for your sins. Through this we are made whole and come to life to the realities that we instinctively know and can experience new life in the love and power of God.

I am saying that if there are only subjective morales without absolute morals on which to judge its worth they become meaningless. When you say there is only subjective moral you are treating morals like certain flavor of food. One person likes spicy another likes sweet. We don't hear people say that it is morally wrong to like spicy because that would be silly. Yet we all know what we ought to do and ought not do and it has nothing to do with whither we like to or not.

I can't say that it is a draw but if you wish to step out of the conversation I understand I would just hope you throughly reviewed your beliefs.