Recap - A moral question for theists

[dyresand]

Or 2 Peter 3:8 for the same  idea in Holy Scripture.

When you quote scripture here it tends to shut the atheist down from 'thinking' and has them just parrot chiche'd arguments they know go with certain scripture. oh, look Cross gave a great example of this. That's why I try the Mr. Magi approach. I get them to wax on right hand wax off left hand/fruit fly, which tends to distract them long enough to learn a biblical precept like your passage in 2 peter, despite their best efforts to keep their minds walled off.

Once you open your mind and take in the bible you will realize it is all based on lies to control the masses of that time.