The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work

[Redbeard The Pink]

You have not accounted for knowledge, logic, or consciousness you have just stated that we are able to use them. I am asking with your world-view, which says we are just the byproducts of chaos, how do you account for uniformity or the ability for conscious and coherent thought? How can you reason at all? When have you ever observed consciousness coming from non-consciousness?

Yes, he did. We both did. Understanding the universe is how we use knowledge, but knowledge (and subsequently logic) is possible because of and arises from the fact that the universe behaves in consistent ways. All evidence suggests that this consistency is inherent, that it simply "is the way it is," and always has been. There is no evidence, however, that the universe's consistency was authored or designed by anyone or anything. The god claim enters the equation as an argument from ignorance because we don't know the reason (if any) that the universal constants exist the way they do.

As for consciousness, that is a natural process that arose with the evolution of creatures with brains and nervous systems. Once critters started taking in data from their surroundings and actually processing it, that started the process of life developing conscious processes. Billions of years later, you get things with various sensory capacities and a processing engine that not only takes data in, but can do a whole load of other shit like think, reason, speak, etc.

You are just judging God by arbitrary means because your system of morals, as you have already stated, are subjective to you. Your judgment on Him has no authority.

All morals are subjective. Your morals are subjective. Nobody's judgement on anything has any authority unless it's backed up by facts and evidence, and the mere "facts" of your Gaud on paper prove that he is inherently paradoxical. He cannot be omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, and omni-benevolent if he created our universe and acts the way he did in the texts that describe his murderous, rapacious, genocidal rampages throughout history. He has to drop at least one of those qualities.

Evil is a corruption of good. A good action has to exist first for there to be a bad action. Lying can not exist before the truth because reality must exist before someone can speak a falsity about it. So God is good and has never changed and there is no mixture in Him. He is pure and good. Since the world has become corrupted by our sin he through the cross has sought a way to purify us so that we can have a relationship with Him. He must judge sin because as I stated before He is pure and good. Yet he is loving and wishes that we would all come into a relationship with Him.

Evil and good are words humans use to describe things they observe. They are not objective forces of the Universe. They are human concepts that were created by human beings...just like the gods.

So this is how Jesus sacrificed, because I used to have the same question. He being the one who made all thing and is above all things made himself the the lowest. He didn't come to the earth as a rich man but poor. He grew up in a limited and imperfect human body. He allowed His creation to attack Him, to betray Him, and murder Him all so that He could take your sin and my sin upon Himself. And this great mystery that I don't understand, He was separated form God the Father because He became a substitute for us. He was always in perfect relationship with the Father but he took the full force of the wrath of God so that we wouldn't have to. He didn't do this through His power but through the power of His the Holy Spirit.

See, this is the kind of evil nonsense I'm talking about. Your god CAN'T be omni-benevolent and all-loving if he created a system by which all sin must be atoned for with a blood sacrifice. I, a flawed human, am able to forgive others without requiring anything from them, let alone their lives or the lives of their animals. If I can do that, why doesn't Gaud do it? If it's because he chooses to be avenged, then he is not omni-benevolent. If it's because he has to be avenged and has no choice in the matter, then he is not all-powerful.

You only assume that you can live your life without Him. He keeps the universe in uniformity so the fact that you can trust certain practices to work and keep you alive is all due to God.

No. The forces of the Universe keep the Universe in uniformity. God is not holding everything together like glue. That's being done mostly by gravity and electromagnetism.