RE: How old is the Earth?
October 14, 2010 at 6:56 pm
(This post was last modified: October 14, 2010 at 6:57 pm by TheDarkestOfAngels.)
(October 14, 2010 at 6:20 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Well at least you are honest enough to admit that you make up your mind on the validity of an argument BEFORE you read the argument lol.
I indeed dismiss creationist science as not science. I freely admit to creationist science as being an oxymoron.
(October 14, 2010 at 6:20 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: As to your relativity argument, I already refuted that approach in another thread you posted on, so I see no need to do it again on here.You indeed said it was untrue that relativity refuted my rebuttal, but you did not back up that claim with ... well... anything.
(October 14, 2010 at 6:20 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: I love how you act like all secular scientists agree on every issue and it's only the creation guys who are marching out of step. Astronomers disagree on all sorts of issues, such as the existance of white holes and what happens when matter enters a black hole. Dr. Newton is part of the American Astronomical Society so I consider him a reputable source (unlike youtube).Red Herring. I never made that presumption. We're talking about a specific set of issues - stop divering from the topic.
(October 14, 2010 at 6:20 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: So without using any other measurement, only your little yard stick, can you tell us how you would know "where you were on the Earth"? So you could then do your calculations with your yard stick lol. Again, too insignificant of a measurement to conclude anything. Good try though, I do admire your effort on here, you give it more than most.As you no doubt missed, I provided a link in that post pointing to how that actually works. I'll give you a hint: it involves geometry.
Although I suppose I made that link hard to find because I hid it inside of an underlined word that was a different color than the usual black.
Here it is: http://www.sciencebuddies.org/science-fa...p018.shtml
Now that I made my link plainly obvioius I should also note that that website is a website for students and that particular idea (measuring the earth's circumferance) is a science fair project idea. Thus, proving once again that you can refute creationist crap with a basic high school education, "Government Scientist."
(October 14, 2010 at 6:20 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Such hubris for such a pointless post. That just proves what the decay rate is at the time of the observation. If I am observing the growth of a 17 year old, and I conclude that if he is really growing an inch a year I should be able to observe 1/365 of an inch a day. If I do observe this, that only means that RIGHT NOW he is growing at a rate that will yield one inch of growth in one year. Does that mean this rate will stay constant? Absolutely not. Does that mean this rate has always been constant? Absolutely not. Does this mean that I can tell how old the teenager is by how fast he is growing now? Absolutely not. I hoped you learned something.Actually, there are clear signs in the human body that a 17 year old's growth won't stay constant. Also, there are plenty of examples of humans at different stages of growth in which it would be easy to conclude what a person's average rate of growth would be from birth to death.
So yes, you can, in fact, learn the growth rate of a human at all stages of life without necessarily needing to observe an individual human grow from birth to death.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan