Quote:1) That relationship exists inside your head. It is not something you can demonstrate for peer review, so it is not evidence.
2) No. When you were too young to read, your parents/church teachers told you about the bible, and convinced you that you would always be able to believe everything it says. They made this easier by presenting only "kid-friendly" versions of these stories that you were unlikely to question or be offended by.
Show me evidence of your claims
Quote:The universe and the various systems that comprise it are in a constantly-shifting equilibrium of order and disorder, and this order comes about from the fact that matter is acted on by universal forces with consistency, and these natural processes create systems that possess what humans define as "order" (which generally just means that they tend to move in patterned, consistent, predictable ways).
how in your world-view did this come about?
Quote:No. Stop with the straw-men already. I never said right and wrong are not part of reality. I said they are not dictated by objective reality. Right and wrong are part of reality, they're just not part of nature. They are human concepts created to categorize things that humans observe into things they like and things they don't like. I can absolutely make a judgement based on my personal morality, but I'm also aware of the fact that my judgement is exactly that: mine. There just happen to be various moral principles that many humans tend to agree on (probably owed to our evolutionary tendency toward cooperation), so there are cases where humans collectively get together and establish mutual moral agreements amongst a culture. This is where right and wrong comes from for everyone. You think it comes from god and your bible because you do not understand this process.How do you describe reality? You say your morals are only your judgments, which are in your head. So in reality there is more than just nature? So why is it difficult to believe in a supernatural being? Also you have claimed my relationship with Jesus is just in my head why would that make it not reality if your judgment and you thoughts are all just in your head.
Quote:I was a christian for 20+ years. Your Jedi mind tricks do not work on me. Jesus, Jehovah, the Holy Ghost...these are fictional characters...imaginary friends...they make you feel warm and fuzzy, but they give you nothing and do nothing for you.
by what means are you making this judgment?
