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Statler Waldorf introduction.
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RE: Statler Waldorf introduction.
(October 15, 2010 at 12:59 pm)theophilus Wrote: That is because we have observed trees growing and people aging so we can apply what we have learned to trees and people that we have never seen before. But no one has ever observed how the universe began.
Or it's because we've cut a number of trees open and simply noticed that the younger ones have fewer rings than the older ones.
The funny thing is that the oldest tree in the world is older than what creationists believe the earth is.
See how that works? We didn't even need to observe a tree from sapling to death to know something like that. Utterly perposterous notion about observations you have.

(October 15, 2010 at 12:59 pm)theophilus Wrote: Scientific estimates of age are based on the assumption that everything developed by natural means alone without any divine intervention. If this assuption is wrong then all of the estimates will be wrong.

http://atheistforums.org/thread-4052.html
Scientific estimates of the earth's age is based off of empirical evidence and nothing more, nothing less. If the evidence showed 6000 years, then scientists would say 6000 years. If it showed 4.54 billion years, then that's what they'd say it is. Unfortunately for creationists, it's the latter estimate.

Edit: Nice link you provided. It's too bad all of the 'evidence' against evolution and whatnot is wrong.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925

Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
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Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 13, 2010 at 2:41 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 13, 2010 at 2:48 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 13, 2010 at 3:03 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 13, 2010 at 3:15 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 13, 2010 at 3:33 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Thor - October 13, 2010 at 6:02 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Welsh cake - October 13, 2010 at 2:53 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Shell B - October 13, 2010 at 3:09 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 13, 2010 at 3:11 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Shell B - October 13, 2010 at 3:14 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Tiberius - October 13, 2010 at 3:17 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by LastPoet - October 13, 2010 at 3:46 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 13, 2010 at 4:11 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Shell B - October 13, 2010 at 4:22 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Autumnlicious - October 13, 2010 at 4:26 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 13, 2010 at 3:46 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 13, 2010 at 4:22 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Shell B - October 13, 2010 at 4:27 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by HeyItsZeus - October 13, 2010 at 4:37 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 13, 2010 at 4:40 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Ace Otana - October 13, 2010 at 4:59 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Shell B - October 13, 2010 at 5:02 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by HeyItsZeus - October 13, 2010 at 5:15 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 13, 2010 at 4:44 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 13, 2010 at 6:46 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Thor - October 14, 2010 at 9:06 am
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 13, 2010 at 7:32 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Zen Badger - October 14, 2010 at 10:19 am
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by downbeatplumb - October 14, 2010 at 2:03 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 14, 2010 at 3:32 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Thor - October 14, 2010 at 3:47 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 14, 2010 at 3:54 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Thor - October 14, 2010 at 4:18 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 14, 2010 at 5:34 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 14, 2010 at 3:49 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Darwinian - October 14, 2010 at 3:35 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 14, 2010 at 3:42 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Darwinian - October 14, 2010 at 3:44 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by LastPoet - October 14, 2010 at 4:31 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 14, 2010 at 5:37 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Thor - October 14, 2010 at 6:04 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by theophilus - October 15, 2010 at 12:59 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Thor - October 15, 2010 at 4:39 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 15, 2010 at 3:39 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 15, 2010 at 4:09 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 14, 2010 at 6:15 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by theVOID - October 14, 2010 at 6:52 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 14, 2010 at 4:54 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by orogenicman - October 14, 2010 at 5:34 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by orogenicman - October 14, 2010 at 6:29 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Zen Badger - October 14, 2010 at 6:49 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 15, 2010 at 2:52 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 15, 2010 at 4:14 pm
RE: Statler Waldorf introduction. - by Statler Waldorf - October 15, 2010 at 4:57 pm

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