(October 14, 2010 at 7:16 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: You just tried to make an absolute statement that there is not such thing as absolutes. I love it when you guys use self-refuting logic.I made no such omission. Do I have to tell you a third time?
I told you before what my "assumptions" on regarding the Earth as several billion years old are and obviously you weren't listening, so allow me to expand. I never made this claim; I simply accepted the findings of what real scientists unveiled. Neither they nor I state this in the context of absolute certainty. I don't know for sure the age of the Earth. Science also does not claim to know the exact age of the planet as the dating technology and calculations continue to advance in their accuracy, it doesn't take much to appreciate the hard work that's gone into developing these techniques to give us more reliable, more precise data. The tests conducted satisfied my standards of evidence since they presented only logic and observations by studying the Earth, which is acceptable to me and I feel justified until someone with a better explanation comes along. I'll say it again my position on this, and never can be, concrete. Some naysayer may call out the findings but guess what? They offer nothing in its place but dogmatic nonsensical drivel from a bunch of goat herders, they don't conduct intensive study or research, they're simply skeptical of skepticism. Science is not as counterproductive as this.
It's the philosophers who waste their time with concepts such as absolute knowledge. It's an ogre of wasted effort. Neither you nor I can know anything for sure - this is OLD news. This whole reality as we perceive it may be a lie or delusion for all we know, but to the best of our knowledge it's demonstrably real, its manifests itself, we are physical. To the best of our knowledge and understanding it's a reality where one can catalogue our observations of natural phenomena and derive logically sound conclusions that have explanatory power and meaning from them. While we can never know anything "for certain" we may continue to investigate, obtain theories and make predictions by simply using the evidence at hand.
Quote:I have not presented any evidence becaause this thread is designed to get at the heart of Old-Earth assumptions. Once we can all be intellecutally honest about the assumptions and the faith that goes itno the Old-Eearth position then we can finally begin to dance.Well at least you're being honest with me in that you've no evidence, but hardly respectful. I ask for clarity and you present nothing. I've taken the time to answer your questions in this debate now you have the decency to respond to mine.
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