RE: Is there free speech in Belfast?
July 17, 2015 at 6:37 pm
(This post was last modified: July 17, 2015 at 6:50 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I'm not being judgemental either, people do strange shit....but cowardice....take a look at those clips again. They were positively -excited-...and why not, they'd become a world power effectively overnight, and had cast off the ruinous treaty of versailles....... shrugs. Sure, towards the end, there was alot more fear than excitement, because all of those structures which they thought were on their side had, effectively, been turned against them one after another and become the machines by which their demise was assured. Sure, sure, there would have been some who lived in constant fear, that's the narrative of the jewish community, for example....but are you really willing to argue that the german nation didn;t eagerly set out to accomplish it;s given task? Their success would be difficult to explain, if they were all just going through the motions. I'm suggesting that "hate speech" can go south...just like that.
If you ever find yourself accused by the state of inciting violence through hate speech after having spoken out against the state...as people have very often found themselves, don't say no one warned you...lol.
How many jews do you think the Nazis executed for "inciting violence" in the workcamps and deathcamps? A fair few, I'd imagine. Probably had a solid justification, in their minds, for having done so too....hmn....if a jew had unkind words about the fuhrer and the reich....I imagine many supporters of the fuhrer would be quick to call it "hate speech" ........in fact, they still do....
Personally, I'd prefer those folks out in the open, loudly saying whatever nonsense rattles through their heads. It beats having them skulk around plotting in basements and private meetings....after all....that's how Bad Shit™ happens.
-and again, just so there's no confusion, I'm not suggesting that hate speech is kosher, I'm suggesting that it isn't something that we should see as particularly actionable from a legal perspective, same with "inciting violence". The crowd at a UFC event is "inciting violence"...............
If you ever find yourself accused by the state of inciting violence through hate speech after having spoken out against the state...as people have very often found themselves, don't say no one warned you...lol.
How many jews do you think the Nazis executed for "inciting violence" in the workcamps and deathcamps? A fair few, I'd imagine. Probably had a solid justification, in their minds, for having done so too....hmn....if a jew had unkind words about the fuhrer and the reich....I imagine many supporters of the fuhrer would be quick to call it "hate speech" ........in fact, they still do....
Personally, I'd prefer those folks out in the open, loudly saying whatever nonsense rattles through their heads. It beats having them skulk around plotting in basements and private meetings....after all....that's how Bad Shit™ happens.
-and again, just so there's no confusion, I'm not suggesting that hate speech is kosher, I'm suggesting that it isn't something that we should see as particularly actionable from a legal perspective, same with "inciting violence". The crowd at a UFC event is "inciting violence"...............
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