Why does Jesus' "suffering" matter?

[The Grand Nudger]

Right. Because you refuse to accept God's will. God sends His own son to die on a cross so that you might not perish but have eternal life.

You're still dangling the wrong carrot...and I've told you that more than once just in this thread.  I'm not interested in eternal life if the price of entry is torturing some poor schmuck and then nailing him to a post.  It's as simple as that. Take back however many nanoseconds of scapegoating it took to absolve me, give me back all of my responsibility, send me to hell...whatever.....I won't be a party to what you and yours have done to christ - or anyone...period. Understand?

But you don't like that idea. You prefer your own.

Yes, I prefer my own, as god apparently prefers his own...and?

Your argument runs sort of like this:

1. If I were God, I would have done things very differently.
2. If God exists, He must agree with me.
3. Things aren't the way I would have done them.
4. Therefore, God does not exist.

No, jackass...my argument goes like this...

If this crucifixion business were true, then I couldn't, in good conscience, be a christian.

-as I've stated many, many times.  Your inability to address my remarks, and your insistence upon straw manning me are pushing me further from christ. It has nothing to do with whether or not a god exists.

But in reality, it runs like this:

1. If Rhythm were God, he would have done things differently.
2. Things aren't different.
3. Therefore, Rhythm isn't God.

No, I'm not......and since I never claimed to be god, nor would I desire the job or title.....you're starting to come off like a loon.  Have this conversation of yours with whomever you like, but don't pretend that I've been participating in it. You're arguing with yourself, not me. If you don't have an argument to overcome my objection, if you are simply -incapable-, just own up to it. Why is that so difficult for you to do, and why has your religion turned you into a habitual liar -in addition- to a scapegoater, or did you do all of that on your own? Is any of this supposed to incentivize me? Are you not willing to demonstrate the courage of the convictions you've claimed to hold?

I'm not arguing with you, here, over the existence of a god, either you accept that and move forward, or you don't...and show yourself to be -exactly- what I've claimed you are...a liar for christ. Your call, douche.