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A Scientific Basis for Spirit
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RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit
(February 11, 2012 at 8:34 pm)Abracadabra Wrote: No you can't turn thoughts off. But that's irrelevant to the point of this experiment.
This hypothesis was never to proclaim that you could.
The hypothesis was simply that you can choose to ignore thoughts.
The conclusion is that you must then be something other than thoughts.

It might be more accurate to state that you can ignore some thoughts. You clearly cannot ignore those functions of your brain which are required to sustain you, and some level of consciousness is required to oversee that (at least in humans, due to our biology). I fail to see how you've determined that because you can ignore passing thoughts, that consciousness is not comprised entirely of thought.

Quote:So nowhere did I say that you can turn thoughts off.
I simply said that you can ignore them.
Therefore you must not be your thoughts.

You didn't claim that you had reached a state of awareness, but no thought (a pretty amusing sentence..you must have a different definition of "aware" than I do)? How did you achieve that, if you didn't turn them off? Why can't you turn off your thoughts anyway, if you are something external to them?


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A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Abracadabra - February 11, 2012 at 6:37 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by RW_9 - February 11, 2012 at 6:39 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by padraic - February 11, 2012 at 6:58 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Epimethean - February 11, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2012 at 6:54 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Abracadabra - February 11, 2012 at 7:18 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Anomalocaris - February 11, 2012 at 7:05 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2012 at 7:29 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Abracadabra - February 11, 2012 at 7:55 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Cyberman - February 11, 2012 at 7:54 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2012 at 8:04 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Abracadabra - February 11, 2012 at 8:18 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Cyberman - February 11, 2012 at 8:33 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Epimethean - February 11, 2012 at 8:09 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by reverendjeremiah - February 11, 2012 at 8:13 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2012 at 8:24 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Abracadabra - February 11, 2012 at 8:34 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Cyberman - February 11, 2012 at 8:44 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Abracadabra - February 11, 2012 at 9:14 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2012 at 8:45 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Abracadabra - February 11, 2012 at 9:10 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2012 at 9:14 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2012 at 9:16 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by padraic - February 11, 2012 at 9:33 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Cyberman - February 11, 2012 at 9:48 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Abracadabra - February 11, 2012 at 10:20 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Phil - February 12, 2012 at 12:27 am
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by reverendjeremiah - February 12, 2012 at 11:07 am
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Abracadabra - February 12, 2012 at 3:05 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Phil - February 12, 2012 at 8:53 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Abracadabra - February 12, 2012 at 9:44 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Phil - February 12, 2012 at 9:46 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Abracadabra - February 12, 2012 at 9:57 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Cyberman - February 11, 2012 at 10:40 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Abracadabra - February 11, 2012 at 11:59 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2012 at 12:20 am
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Cyberman - February 12, 2012 at 3:15 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Abracadabra - February 12, 2012 at 3:47 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Cosmic Ape - February 12, 2012 at 3:25 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Abracadabra - February 12, 2012 at 3:53 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Cyberman - February 12, 2012 at 3:52 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Abracadabra - February 12, 2012 at 3:58 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2012 at 3:56 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Abracadabra - February 12, 2012 at 4:04 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2012 at 4:11 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Abracadabra - February 12, 2012 at 4:26 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Epimethean - February 12, 2012 at 7:07 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Abracadabra - February 12, 2012 at 7:23 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2012 at 7:11 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Cyberman - February 12, 2012 at 7:22 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Epimethean - February 12, 2012 at 7:14 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Epimethean - February 12, 2012 at 7:44 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Abracadabra - February 12, 2012 at 8:29 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by Epimethean - February 12, 2012 at 11:01 pm
RE: A Scientific Basis for Spirit - by reverendjeremiah - February 12, 2012 at 11:16 pm

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