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Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes.
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RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes.
I'm a glutton for punishment...

(February 18, 2012 at 1:39 am)brotherlylove Wrote: How do you out imagine a maximally great being?
Simple, I used my...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4sUPvDZfog


Quote:It means there is a way of seeing that extends beyond what you now perceive.
If you meant intuition (psychology) then why use such a meaningless term as "spiritual eyes"? Let's put your reliable deity-perceiving sense to the test shall we? We'll make this experiment straightforward, something trivial, after you can sense an infinite-creator-god out there so any challenge thereafter is moot. Okay then, what items do I currently have on my desk? Hmm?


Quote:What being would be worthy of worship?
You obviously didn't understand the usage of term 'Catch-22' in context to worship.


Quote:There is plenty of evidence for design, such as the information in DNA.
No.


Quote:God only sends unrepentant sinners to hell, so if you have been warned and you still refuse to turn from your sins, I don't see anything unfair about it.
Except I've never met with or spoke to any God, so in all fairness, I haven't been warned for doing anything wrong.


Quote:He knows what is best for you because He created you and knows you better than you know yourself. Do you deny that such a being would know what is best for you?
No god anywhere created me. I'm biological. My parents 'created' me, and half the time they don't know what's best for themselves.


Quote:Your flaw here is that you're contrasting God to human beings.
You erroneously presume that I think humans are perfect and should be worshipped? When the fuck have I ever said that?


Quote:Worship isn't groveling yourself, it is a sincere proclamation of reverance and gratitude.
No god anywhere has ever done anything for me that would make me revere or be grateful or express devotion undo them.


Quote:Consider this quote by CS Lewis:
No. You present your own damn argument instead of ̶q̶̶u̶̶o̶̶t̶̶i̶̶n̶̶g̶ ripping long extract's from another man's work.


Quote:God doesn't need worship
Congratulations on defeating your own argument.


Quote:I think the Creator of this Universe is definitely worthy of worship.
You think a creator-god who doesn't need you is worthy of your time? You are a pitiful blind sheep, no different than legions of stalkers desperately wanting attention from rich and famous celebrities and have no life of your own.


Quote:If He didn't give us the choice we would be robots.
Takes all the fun out of sending us to Hell doesn't us?


Quote:I know what it means, and that doesn't apply to me. I came to Christianity independently.
I don't believe you.


Quote:I "subscribe" to Christianity because I believe it is true.
I don't care.


Quote:It is real because He gave us a spirit, which makes us as real as He is, since God is a Spirit.
Fine, move the goalposts. Provide a clear positive ontology for spirits.


Quote:A God who came to Earth as a man could die.
Vampires drink blood, fairies can fly, and Gods can't die.


Quote:Death is inevitable, but not final.
Sorry, death is always final. Verily, it is a fact of life is that it must end. Everyone without exception will die and be forgotten.


Quote:It's the childs fault if he doesn't listen to his parents.
What does this have to do with the painter and painting analogy? Apart from nothing whatsoever, that is.


Quote:It's all about God
Nope. We are real and accountable to each other.

Then there will come a time where we're not accountable to anything as we embrace the eternal void of oblivion.
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Messages In This Thread
Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes. - by MysticKnight - February 15, 2012 at 6:33 pm
RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes. - by Darwinian - February 15, 2012 at 6:40 pm
RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes. - by Jackalope - February 15, 2012 at 7:26 pm
RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes. - by Jackalope - February 15, 2012 at 7:40 pm
RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes. - by Jackalope - February 15, 2012 at 10:19 pm
RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes. - by Tempus - February 16, 2012 at 2:05 am
RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes. - by Strongbad - February 16, 2012 at 2:00 pm
RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes. - by jason56 - February 15, 2012 at 8:44 pm
RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes. - by Forsaken - February 15, 2012 at 8:50 pm
RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes. - by Reforged - February 15, 2012 at 10:43 pm
RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes. - by jason56 - February 15, 2012 at 10:56 pm
RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes. - by Minimalist - February 15, 2012 at 11:56 pm
RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes. - by Cosmic Ape - February 16, 2012 at 12:22 am
RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes. - by Darwinian - February 16, 2012 at 6:26 pm
RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes. - by Whateverist - February 17, 2012 at 12:52 am
RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes. - by genkaus - February 17, 2012 at 5:12 am
RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes. - by padraic - February 16, 2012 at 11:04 pm
RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes. - by Minimalist - February 16, 2012 at 11:55 pm
RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes. - by padraic - February 17, 2012 at 7:06 am
RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes. - by LarissaAnn - February 17, 2012 at 11:04 am
RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes. - by padraic - February 17, 2012 at 6:17 pm
RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes. - by Thorham - February 18, 2012 at 1:09 am
RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes. - by Welsh cake - February 18, 2012 at 8:15 am

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