(October 10, 2012 at 4:25 pm)Tino Wrote:(October 10, 2012 at 2:46 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Probably because Republicans are lying their asses off.
Another unsupported assertion.
Well, we had a discussion on that topic going here but I never got a response from you regarding lie #1 in the Ryan RNC speech.
Quote:The source of all this isn't Romney, it's the Las Vegas Review-Journal's endorsement of Romney.
Both the RNC and the endorsement quote-mined Obama. The quote-mine has been pointed out to them and they continue to peddle it. This makes them liars.
Quote:What he said was "If you've got a business – you didn't build that."Yes, that's the quote mined part of what he said.
Quote mines are direct quotes, just edited to change the meaning.
The entire quote in context, which you quoted above, is clearly talking about roads and bridges.
Quote:I think you're better off arguing what he meant, but again, we don't agree on what he meant. I do think that what he said is what he meant.
I agree we disagree. I'm working with the entire quote in context. You are working with the quote-mined passage. The fact that the passage was quote-mined has been pointed out to you and yet you still insist on using that edited snippet.
Are you being willfully ignorant or dishonest?
Quote:Earlier I tried to get you or someone else to clarify what you think the term "trickle down" means, with no meaningful response on the subject. Romney isn't offering something he calls "trickle down" so I can't comment on it until you define what it is.
As far as I know, there aren't multiple ideas of what this term means. The theory of trickle down economics is that there's a direct inverse correlation between the tax rates on the richest segment of society and the economic activity they create in the form of job growth, economic expansion and even tax revenue. Taxing them more, according to the theory, causes the economy to contract as the "job creators" pull back from investing in the economy while taxing them less has the opposite effect.
This theory has been put to the test for the last 30 years and especially so in the last administration. Clinton raised taxes and enjoyed economic growth during the 90s while W Bush gave the rich the most generous of tax relief and saw the worst job growth since The Depression.
The Republicans have not abandoned Trickle Down as a result of its failure. Quite to the contrary.
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