(October 9, 2013 at 11:27 am)sarcasticgeographer Wrote:(October 9, 2013 at 10:11 am)festive1 Wrote: The flag means less to me than the ideals it represents. Being that America purports to hold those ideals, yet reality is something quite different, it's very hypocritical. In addition, the people who seem hellbent on holding the country back from becoming everything the symbol stands for, wrap themselves in a blanket of patriotism and, literally, the flag. It's sick how people use patriotism. It's dangerous. I'm not fussed about the flag, they can keep it. I just want the execution of the ideals, which are hard to find here, because they've been bought and sold. They are separate things, ideals and symbols. They are not interchangeable. One has far more actual value and weight than the other. We can make the flag a giant pile of poo on a white background... whatever, I'm good, so long as America actually IS what it pretends to be, which we're not. America is a big, stupid bully, both on the international stage and to it's own citizens. I'm sick of it, and frustrated there's not a whole hell of a lot I can do about it.
It is absolutely disgusting that you spit on a flag that has been the symbol of freedom. Why do you think so many people want to come live here? The way you treat our flag is an abomination and you SHOULD move to whatever country you prefer and get over yourself. People have fought and died for the flag that you spit on. Remember Iwo Jima?
Talk to the millions of people in the American prison system for minor drug offences about freedom. Talk to the millions of hard working Americans who work 2 or 3 jobs to support their families to not even be able to pay the bills or provide their family with healthcare about equality. If anything, America doesn't deserve our flag or the right to claim the ideals it represents. It's a farce and a lie. We profess to uphold these ideals, yet when push comes to shove we shit all over our own citizens. Fuck that, and fuck those who claim America holds those values. If we actually held those values we wouldn't be in such sorry ass shape as a nation. Instead we'd put our money where our mouth is and actually fucking live those ideals.
