Does BDSM Need Its Own Rights Movement?

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Who is silencing you? Me? Who? This isn't a free speech thing, man, this is a form of unsavory exhibitionism. If there is anything such as decency in you, you'd tell these people to keep whatever they are doing behind their own walls. They won't bother me, I won't bother them.

Why they so vehemently try to publicize their sex life in front of everyone is really baffling, whereas their exhibitonism does in fact reflect heavily on whatever "stereotypes" me and a grand portion of society might be enforcing, I'm sorry but it is not me who is to blame.

Look at this and tell me that I'm just being an asshole by not wanting these freaks to roam the streets that the kids and elderly walk.

Ahh, so it's not about harm at all: it's about you thinking what I do is icky. I'm sorry, but "I don't like it, therefore it's abnormal" is not an argument.

And I'm not sorry, actually.

Well, there is no real fantasy that these guys already don't go flaunting around.
In truth, you can only know one's sex life as much as he or she is willing to tell you, and well, these people, the "BDSM community" or whatever they are called perfectly reflect themselves as the freaks they are.
They are in for the shock value, they want people to get shocked and sickened by them, it makes them feel "important", like that they actually matter.

Good to see you've decided on our motivations without consulting us at all, that really tells us what you're bringing to the conversation, here.

And again, I must stress: not being on the Mehmet-approved list of things that exist doesn't mean we're bad. It means you're opinionated.

There is a standard for sexual norm in every society. Moreover, such norms are not too different from eachother in most countries. The most obvious sexual norm reflects on the reproductive nature of sex.
I didn't define these, nature did.

Well shit, if you want to go down that road, then nature also defined my dominant streak, didn't it? That shit didn't get injected in me from elsewhere, it's been with me my entire sexual life.

Interestingly, you also make recourse to society: are you then saying that the moment we become the majority, our preferences become normal?

Well, I did not mention God even once throughout our discussion. I think norms are defined by a variety of parameters. And as I said, I do not define normal, I simply conform to it(by default).
You can either choose to conform, or choose not to conform. If you choose not to, that is your problem not mine. Norms do not change at the whims and fancies of fringe groups such as these.

Ah, but that's the thing: so far you've failed to define normal, nor the mechanism by which it is determined and propagated in such a way as to exclude my peeps. The only thing we've managed to determine is that you don't like what I do; that's fine, but everything you do isn't normal just because you do it. Your opinions aren't social trends.

No matter how much you talk, these people will still be regarded as freaks as long as they flaunt their abnormal antics in front of normal society.
And this is how it should be.

You hear that, guys? Mehmet doesn't like it, so therefore it's wrong!

Do you understand how little your opinion means to me, to others like me, and to the world at large?

I truly don't know anything about your bedroom habits which is obviously not my concern, neither did I ask you about it, did I?
Neither did the many people that are subjected to the "X pride" movement propaganda campaigns.
But once you publicize something like they do, you deal with the consequences. Like the school slut, going around whoring, with her exploits being the subject of talk and stories, and then whining and complaining about how she is misunderstood and how people have no right to talk about her that way.

But if the stories are lies, surely you agree that they serve no purpose worth propagating?

No matter what one might have "done," malicious lies are malicious lies, and so far it just seems like you're perfectly willing to smear anyone you don't approve of. That's not the action of an upstanding, moral person; that's the action of a bully.

But I forgot, such people do not want any sort of responsibility in life! For them, life is a party, free from every burden, free from every norm, free from every form of morality, free from society, free from the past and the future.
As I said before, pathetic. Waste of good oxygen they are. If they were born as mice, they'd at least have a place in the world.

Ah, that's your mistake: you've mixed up bdsm practitioners with cartoon characters. That guy in the ponyplay outfit you posted above? Once he's out of the suit, he has a name, and a job, and responsibilities, maybe even a family. What he does on his off time doesn't change that. He's... you know, a person.

All you're doing is demonstrating how absolutely ignorant you are on this subject, and how you've mistaken clucking moral outrage for having a cogent point.