RE: Your stance on Hard Atheism
October 27, 2014 at 5:31 pm
(This post was last modified: October 27, 2014 at 5:35 pm by trmof.)
(October 27, 2014 at 5:23 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote:(October 27, 2014 at 5:18 pm)trmof Wrote: Yes, and I fully believe that they have made contact with some sort of superhuman entity. I just happen to think it's the wrong one.
And your proof for that would be?
Three reasons: A) I already know superhuman beings exist, so for the most part I take them at their word. B) My God tells me they exist. And C) I have also had contact with superhuman beings other than my God. Again, if you don't believe me that is your prerogative, it doesn't negate the fact that it has been proven to me.
(October 27, 2014 at 5:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(October 27, 2014 at 5:10 pm)trmof Wrote: Without proof that they can show you, you mean. That does not mean God has not provided sufficient proof to them. I would fall into that category. God has proven his existence to me in a way which I can not adequately describe to another person, a way which is metaphysical, transcendent, and glorious beyond words, and it should be no surprise that I wish others to experience the same thing. If you choose not to believe me then that is fine, but I would hope that you would believe my intentions are pure.
Firstly, your "Religious Views" are: Anti-theist, which would imply that you would be against a god even if you knew for sure that it existed.
Second, you don't understand the terms involved. If you are willing to concede that a god or gods could possibly exist, then you are an agnostic atheist. If you consider it a fact that no such thing does or can exist, then you are a hard atheist or gnostic atheist.
Yet again, you miss the point. My religious views are 'anti-theist-, yes. But that doesn't mean what you seem to think. I'm anti-theist, which has nothing to do with whether or not gods exist.
Again, you're misusing the term 'athiest' - it isn't about certainty, it is about lack of belief.
Boru
I am not misusing the term "atheist," as some of the more educated atheists here should be able to tell you. There is small but very vocal group of atheists who claim to know that it is impossible for gods to exist. These are called "hard atheists" or "gnostic atheists," and they are usually irrational assholes who like to get in fights. If you are not one of them then you are an "agnostic atheist" The fact that hard atheists exist is the reason that the clarification is necessary.