(June 12, 2015 at 9:12 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Countless British are on the Islamic payroll to sell out their country to the Islamists. They would quickly wrap you up.Citation needed.
(June 12, 2015 at 9:36 pm)Marsellus Wallace Wrote: exactly and what happened in france(the banning of burka) was the right thing to do, human rights is more important that religious rights.No, from a Human Rights perspective, banning the burkha was exactly the wrong thing to do:
1. Telling people that they can't dress the way they want to is a direct violation of the right to self-expression.
2. Victimising muslim women for the way they (are forced to) dress does nothing to combat the real issues of patriarchy and misogyny in islam.
3. Marginalising muslims for a dress-code only prevents the type of constructive communication that's required to modernise the traditional (medieval) practices.
(June 13, 2015 at 6:00 am)TheMessiah Wrote: A lot of British people are trying to fight Islam, and they get labelled ''Islamaphobes'' --- though we've had great British thinkers lead the away against Islam, Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, etc.See, this is the problem: the idea that islam must be 'fought'. Muslims are as british as any other UK national, consequently they must not be 'fought' but included. That doesn't mean we accept harmful practices, instead we find ways to effectively combat harm while leaving muslims with their rights to freedom of religion intact. It's certain people and practices which must be fought, not 'islam' or 'muslims' as generic groups. That type of oversimplified thinking and crass generalisation can lead to actual islamophobia and stunt/ retard progress by leading us to false conclusions.
Sum ergo sum
